Author Topic: Neighbouring Farms Dogs!!!!!  (Read 14694 times)

chris3000

  • Joined May 2012
  • Wiltshire
Neighbouring Farms Dogs!!!!!
« on: July 09, 2012, 02:56:01 pm »
We are having a real issue with our neighbours dogs.

Our smallholding is directly next door to a Barley Farm (the By-way separates us).

When we first moved in a few months ago his Jack Russell came into our garden and killed 3 of our hens.

I approached him and his reply was 'that's what dogs do' , he then went on to say that as the house and land had been empty for 6 months they were used to go and playing in it.

I, not wanting to be to much of a grump on first meeting our neighbour - said ok, well in future please don't allow them to come onto our garden and land (he has a collie too).

So as the months have gone on the dogs are still coming onto our land, they ignore commands to get out and just either lay there or bark at us. They have now started growling at my children (which has resulted in us not allowing them to play outside when they are about).

At this point I flipped, I spoke to the farmer for the 100th time to the same ignorance of responsibility.

I put up some stock fencing around the entry level - but within a few days they have dug under it - I complained again and he just looked at me blankly as if I was talking Chinese.

I need to invest in some better fencing (for the garden boundary) - but what more can I do?

Just to note they do not reside at the farm (it is the processing plant) and he brings them up and lets them roam free during the day and at weekends.

How can I deal with someone who takes zero responsibility for his animals?
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HelenVF

  • Joined Apr 2012
Re: Neighbouring Farms Dogs!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2012, 03:02:00 pm »
Will the dog warden/environmental health be able to help.  If he is allowing the dog to roam, then he is either breaking the law, or a byelaw - not sure which one.  If the dog is growling at your children, he is in trouble under the dangerous dogs act.

Might be worth ringing the council for a chat.

Helen

Castle Farm

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  • Hereford/Powys Border. near Hay-on-Wye
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Re: Neighbouring Farms Dogs!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2012, 03:02:35 pm »
Put up an electric fence. They will soon learn not to come anywhere near it.

Tell the owner that unless he keeps his dogs off your land you will take all steps needed to prevent them entering including force.
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tizaala

  • Joined Mar 2011
  • Dolau, Llandrindod Wells,Powys
Re: Neighbouring Farms Dogs!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2012, 03:16:08 pm »
If they are killing your stock on your premises , shoot them. >:(

plumseverywhere

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  • Worcestershire
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Re: Neighbouring Farms Dogs!!!!!
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2012, 03:49:30 pm »
You've tried speaking to him with no reasonable response, I'd go for some electric netting fence across the area where the dogs are coming through, hopefully they'd get pinged quite soon and see it as deterrent.
I would be especially worried about the dogs growling at the children though  :-\  seek advice from a local dog warden/police?
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Lesley Silvester

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Telford
Re: Neighbouring Farms Dogs!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2012, 03:54:24 pm »
He is surely breaking the law here.  Definitely ring the council.  He's had his chances to do something about it and it's not even as if you have to live next to him.

jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: Neighbouring Farms Dogs!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2012, 04:04:12 pm »
I'd go for the electric netting too. If he creates about it (cos he sounds like the sort of bloke who might  >:() you can say it is to keep the foxes from your chickens  :-*


Fowlman

  • Joined Apr 2012
  • Wiltshire
Re: Neighbouring Farms Dogs!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2012, 04:12:45 pm »
Shoot the owner  :innocent:
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Sylvia

  • Joined Aug 2009
Re: Neighbouring Farms Dogs!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2012, 04:47:25 pm »
Definitely 'phone the dog warden and if he won't help(though I'm sure he will) then 'phone the police. Your children and livestock are at risk!

deepinthewoods

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Re: Neighbouring Farms Dogs!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2012, 04:55:24 pm »
tell him next time the dogs are on your land you will shoot him, sorry, 'them'.
you are within your rights.

jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: Neighbouring Farms Dogs!!!!!
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2012, 05:06:53 pm »
The trouble with shooting dogs is that it isn't their fault.

The trouble with threatening people and trying to change their behaviour, is that they can get nasty back, and who wants someone who has a grudge around their property and animals, maybe when they're not there.

However much it feels as though this jerk should behave better it sounds as though he is unlikely to. Even if you get an 'order' of some description where are the Police/Council Wardens to enforce it all the time?

Which is why engineering out the problem is the more reliable and less stressful way to go, ie better fences.

Fleecewife

  • Joined May 2010
  • South Lanarkshire
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Re: Neighbouring Farms Dogs!!!!!
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2012, 05:35:15 pm »
You are very wise jaykay  :trophy:   Please listen to her advice coopers  :thumbsup:
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RUSTYME

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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2012, 05:37:43 pm »
Get a baseball bat !

chris3000

  • Joined May 2012
  • Wiltshire
Re: Neighbouring Farms Dogs!!!!!
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2012, 05:39:29 pm »
Thanks to everyone for their advice

Jaykay - you are bang on, I will just get my new (better and more expensive) fencing up.

After another conversation with him about it today he really doesn't care - especially after he called me a hobby farmer - I will just block him, his dogs and his attitude out.

Why do large scale farmers detest smallholders so much?
Any advice I give is purely based on my experience .... It may not be from 20 years of farming or a book I have read .... however it has worked for me.

jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: Neighbouring Farms Dogs!!!!!
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2012, 05:41:39 pm »
They don't all Coopers, really they don't. My big farmer neighbours couldn't be more encouraging or helpful.

But small minded idiots are small minded idiots, wherever you find them  >:( And if you can do something he can do AND something else, where does that leave him. So he has to belittle what you're doing.

I'm sorry you have to spend money on fences but I think you're right about blocking out him, his dogs and his stoopid attitude  :-*

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You are very wise jaykay
I'm not sure about that :blush but thank you  :-*
« Last Edit: July 09, 2012, 05:58:27 pm by jaykay »

 

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