I apologise as I think I may have given you the wrong impression with regards to my patterdale - when I said "good hunting stock" i meant they are good ratters, not by any means for "hunting" anything else. I would not dream of hunting with one dog never mind more but I did get him to keep the rats down, as i had been advised to by several people. Having said that the only thing he chases is the odd bee, butterfly or leaf and runs away from the new chickens and anything else that comes near and I wouldn't have him any other way.
If the fox gives us any trouble I must add I would not have any objection to it be shot, some may think I am wrong but I want to keep my chickens and other safe in their new home.
Hope this clears the dog thing up for me though - they are my pets and need to live with all the wildlife around us as we do.