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plt102

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Hand pulling shetland fleece rather than shearing
« on: May 16, 2012, 03:39:00 pm »
My shetlands are all nearly lambed but it looks like their fleeces are coming away naturally. I am worried that their fleeces will be spoiled before they are sheared and would rather not have them sheared while they are pregnant. I read that they can be hand pulled. Has anyone had any experience with this. Tips would be very welcome. Thanks

Fleecewife

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Re: Hand pulling shetland fleece rather than shearing
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2012, 04:00:43 pm »
Yes Shetlands can be roo'd, which is what hand pulling is called.  It is also sometimes also called plucking but that is totally misleading.  Somewhere on here PDOlamb has posted a link to roo'ing.  I haven't looked at it yet, but someone has commented that it looks stressful for the sheep, which it doesn't need to.  It does however take a long time, but can be done in several sessions if both sheep and human get fed up.  There are various different ways of doing it - peeling the whole fleece off in a oner, for which you need very strong hands and some idea of what you are doing, using a knife to brace the wool against as you pull, or pulling the fleece off one handful, or less, at a time.  This last is my preferred method, as it leaves the sheep looking very beautiful and the wool can be spun directly from the bits roo'd off.  I tie my sheep to a gate by a halter and sit against it, with one knee stopping it going forwards and the other stopping it going back.  I then check that there is sufficient 'rise' in the fleece to be able to roo ie the thin line showing the slower winter growth is a good half to one inch above the skin.  Starting at the shoulder, I take small handfuls of fleece, gripping firmly, brace the skin with my other hand, and wiggle the handful until the old and new wool separates at the rise.  This proceeds handful by handful across the sheep.  Usually the britches are not ready when everything else is, so you are left with a funny looking sheep, but it will be ready to finish in another couple of weeks.
First shear sheep can be more difficult to roo, and occasionally you will get an individual who just hates being roo'd, but most don't object.  It is a great way to prepare a Shetland for showing.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2012, 04:03:56 pm by Fleecewife »
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robate55

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Re: Hand pulling shetland fleece rather than shearing
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2012, 04:09:13 pm »
Some of my Hebs are losing their fleece. Can you roo them as well?
Rose

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Re: Hand pulling shetland fleece rather than shearing
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2012, 04:55:33 pm »
Not really, but you can tidy them up by rooing the bits which are falling off, especially over the belly and round the neck.  The occasional Heb can be roo'ed but mostly not.
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Brucklay

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Re: Hand pulling shetland fleece rather than shearing
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2012, 05:01:59 pm »
My rooed shetland (with a pall) I did a few weeks ago - now it's all off

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Bionic

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Re: Hand pulling shetland fleece rather than shearing
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2012, 05:03:41 pm »
Great pic and very interesting as I haven't seen rooing before
thanks
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Fowlman

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Re: Hand pulling shetland fleece rather than shearing
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2012, 05:08:37 pm »
Will the rest come off too or will you leave it.
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Re: Hand pulling shetland fleece rather than shearing
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2012, 07:51:08 pm »
It's all off now - some a few days later and some a few days after that - it does leave a lovely fuzzy finish - well I like the finish. Doing my Castlemilk ram at the moment he's about 1/3 done - even he's not that bothered by it - especially if his head is in a bucket of crunchies!!
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mab

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Re: Hand pulling shetland fleece rather than shearing
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2012, 11:15:16 pm »
how much force do you need to pull it out?

 - my shetlands didn't seem to want to 'roo' last year ( it wouldn't pull out easily) so I ended up shearing - or maybe my Shetlands are just non-roo-able?

Fleecewife

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Re: Hand pulling shetland fleece rather than shearing
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2012, 12:38:42 am »
If you try roo'ing before the fleece is lifting then it doesn't work.   In that case wait another week and try again, and another week and so on if necessary.  If you find yourself using too much force then take smaller amounts each time, and add a wriggling motion to help the fibres pull apart.  Doing it in hot sunshine definitely helps as it softens the lanolin, and conversely trying to roo when it is very cold makes the lanolin sticky so very difficult to do.
Remember that you are not pulling the wool out of the skin, you are just separating the old wool from the new, where it shows the rise about half to an inch above the skin.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2012, 12:40:34 am by Fleecewife »
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Re: Hand pulling shetland fleece rather than shearing
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2012, 08:48:28 am »
Hazel's fleece virtually fell off - I found out as I'd wanted to catch her to check her feet and ended up with a handful of fleece, panicked something was wrong and dashed into the house to phone the breeder I got her from who thought it was very funny. Her shoulders, back and sides and rump came off very easily just her neck took longer - I find it quite therapeutic
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gerpsych

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Re: Hand pulling shetland fleece rather than shearing ON Welsh Mountains
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2012, 03:07:34 pm »
Hi,

This has been fascinating. I had thought about this when handling the sheep earlier today. Can Welsh Mountain sheep be roo'd ?

Cheers

Alan

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Re: Hand pulling shetland fleece rather than shearing
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2012, 03:30:13 pm »
Poor Bertie my Shetland is very hot in this weather.  Have been trying to get her sheared locally, but always have problems with just him needing doing.  I have been pulling clumps of fleece from him, and as he is very friendly, he stands there quite happily for this.
 
Will have to try rooing him now!!

Fleecewife

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Re: Hand pulling shetland fleece rather than shearing ON Welsh Mountains
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2012, 05:05:05 pm »
Hi,

This has been fascinating. I had thought about this when handling the sheep earlier today. Can Welsh Mountain sheep be roo'd ?

Cheers

Alan

Not traditionally, but the only way you'll find out is by giving it a go.  If they have a good rise you might realise that you can hand shear them very easily - it temps you to try  :)
The two breeds which are traditionally roo'ed are Soay and Shetland, but that's not to say it can't be done on other breeds.
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plt102

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Re: Hand pulling shetland fleece rather than shearing
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2012, 01:08:07 pm »
Yey - we did it! One of our ewes was our victim. She didn't like it too much but it was pretty straightforward. Had to snip a few bits off but only took about 20 mins once we got going. Well worth the effort. Going to try another couple but the singing shearer is on his way I hope so he can do the ones that aren't quite ready.
Thanks for the advice. Will do them all next year!
P

 

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