thank you tizaala for your help and advise and the services of your billy.
Yes I've done quite a bit of kid watching today but had too many other demands on time to stay too long. I had to keep checking he was OK though.
I feel a bit miffed I didn't see it after all the popping out to check all week, admittedly I thought it would be Gertie not Rosie that kidded first she's been showing much more signs for ages and a couple of other goat keepers agreed with me. Don't think she'll go the two more weeks though.