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northfifeduckling

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Re: Jade Goody
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2009, 03:57:08 pm »
Firstly, I don't read any kind of celeb mags, I don't watch Big Brother and I don't care whatsoever about celebrities as such - people like you and me, but most of them with too much money and sometimes that is sadly all they have. If fame comes as a result of some kind of achievement it can make sense but not for the sake of being famous. What I couldn't avoid seeing or hearing about Jade didn't appeal to me to put it mildly.
But -
Every single living thing - people and animals of any breed, race and background - on this world wants to be happy and live a life without pain of any kind. The sentiment in a few posts does remind me of a certain society 50 years ago, which dehumanised "some" people by denying them any rights to live their lives in health and happiness with their families. We all know where that led to. In my opinion everybody does deserve some kind of compassion for their suffering, however many mistakes they have made in their lives, however stupid they may have been, including George! Kind is between kin and kindle...:&>

doganjo

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Re: Jade Goody
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2009, 03:59:05 pm »
Well said, Kirsten
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

Rhyan & Melissa

  • Joined Dec 2008
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Re: Jade Goody
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2009, 04:11:00 pm »
Thousands of people die everyday from cancer. I am sure they are all as courageous as this woman. Why should we put a Z lister on a pedastool. I am sure she will be given a Sainthood.

I found her sickening as a person before she was ill, I wouldn't wish cancer on anyone and I feel for her family. But its dominated the front page for too long. There are really more pressing and important news issues out there. Its good that its raised the profile for cancer, but I am sure it could have been covered in a less Sun way.

Max Clifford must be gutted she has passed away - thats at  least 25k a week he has lost in feeding spoilers to the press.

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sandy

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Re: Jade Goody
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2009, 04:25:51 pm »
I am not a celebrity person really, although yesterday I bought OK, I fancied a sit in the sun doing nothing for a few Min's, if I had taken my cuppa out I would have wondered off and done something so I bought a mag that you did not have to use your brain for and some wine gums, I ate them and flicked through the photos....I understand others on this forum and I most probably will not buy another mag for years if ever but again, with modern media, TV and Internet, we have ordinary people in our homes making them more interesting than someone less ordinary. Today's 5 min  fame person is yesterdays film star or probably further back warrior, just ordinary but made something out of life, however trivial.  I am afraid most Professors and inventors and a lot of politicions are too far away from what people can achieve. I hate all they hype about celebrities, anyone who know me would tell you that, I was once out shopping in a market and was surrounded by men in suits and some cameras, I said to the stall holder, why are these people around, I got the reply it was someone opening the market from Corination Street, I said " I would not know him if I was next to him" the stall holder said "you are!" Anyway...whatever next????

ballingall

  • Joined Sep 2008
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Re: Jade Goody
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2009, 06:29:01 pm »
IMHO Jade died through her own stupidity,she didn't go to the docs when she should have (or so I have heard) and her disease was entirely preventable if caught early enough. It's just such a shame she bred before she died,maybe a postumous Darwin Award?  Bring back eugenics and enforced sterilization I say..... Ree

The variation in other peoples views never ceases to amaze me.
IMHO Jade was exploited by the media, she has exploited them back. Would any of us, in all honesty, given the chance, not have taken the chance to provide a lump of cash for our family on our death.
Not many of us in this life get a chance to change things for the better, in a strange way Jade has done so. By raising awareness amongst younger women.
At least the media can't get at her now.

Ditto all that. I don't think anyone would have wanted to go through what she did on camera- but it was her last chance/option left to create a solid backup (financially) for her kids. I don't blame her for that. She wasn't the most wonderful person on the planet, but you know what, today on Mother's Day, there were two little boys with no mum to make breakfast for. And that is the upsetting thing.

Beth
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carole h

  • Joined Jan 2009
Re: Jade Goody
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2009, 06:59:37 pm »
I've had very mixed (and mixed up) views of the whole process. I think I find the hypocrisy of the press most irritating. I am sad for her family, and glad that public awareness has been raised.

minidax

  • Joined Feb 2009
Re: Jade Goody
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2009, 09:39:52 pm »
Such strong views on one very young, young lady who has died an horrible death and left behind two gorgeous little boys with no Mum.  It doesn't matter if you loved her or hated disliked her she has raised awareness for this horrible disease that no 'ordinary' body could have ever done, no matter how much money had been thrown at an advertising campaign it would not have raised as much awareness as Jade Goody has done, and that can only be a good thing.

As for "One child dies every 6 seconds for lack of decent water,where's the outcry over that ..." well there is an outcry over this and huge amounts of cash raised (does all of it reach where it should?  another discussion?) but this problem is immense and needs to be organised globally, I just wonder how many of us have all these STRONG views and opinions and how many of us actually do anything constructive about it, its easy to voice our opinions on a forum, how many more lifes could we save if we used this energy more positively?

As for eugenics this is a very dangerous topic to discuss, I just wonder if MrRee has children of his own?  I was diagnosed with 3 brain tumours last year, I didn't have a crystal ball and neither did Jade Goody. 

Compassion is free, not much is!!

Sorry for my rant.


MrRee

  • Joined Jan 2008
Re: Jade Goody
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2009, 10:27:40 pm »
Mini,
I do have children,two...... and your point?
   As for doing something about it in a more positive way,I worked in Cyprus for the UNHCR for 8 months helping refugees,burying the dead in their "own" country and many other facets of humanitarian aid. I fought for the KLA against the Serbs when ethnic cleansing was going on the Balkans,saw the mass graves,torture victims and lost friends in battle at my side. I spent 2 years in Iraq escorting convoys all over the country helping to build water treatment plants,sewage plants and other humanitarian aid with the Japanese Imperial Army rebuilding and refitting 52 hospitals. I lost 3 very good friends out there,(and my little finger),was shot 3 times and blown up by a suicide bomber in a car,blown up again 3 weeks later by a roadside bomb. Please don't tell me I do nothing about it positively,as you inferred.
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northfifeduckling

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Re: Jade Goody
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2009, 10:43:58 pm »
Trouble with any life in the public eye (for whatever reason) is that one's life raises so many different emotions and opinions in people. It was her life. She's dead. :&>

minidax

  • Joined Feb 2009
Re: Jade Goody
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2009, 11:04:04 pm »
My partner was in the forces and endured similar to what you and many others have and still do on a daily basis.  However, I think you have gone off topic; I certainly did not mean to cause any offence.  I will choose to end my partaking in the rest of this topic. 

Rosemary

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Re: Jade Goody
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2009, 09:30:23 pm »
Can we kind of drop this now before there is some serious falling out?

sabrina

  • Joined Nov 2008
Re: Jade Goody
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2009, 04:15:44 pm »
Not wishing to upset anyone but there seems to be some misunderstanding about Jade not going for her smear test, in fact she went three times and was told there was nothing to worry about hence the shock when she was told that she did indeed have cancer. Maybe if it had be caught the first time she went then she would still be here. I am not into celebrity's but the facts are, many young people are and because of what happened with Jade they are now thinking more about themselves and going for the test. this can only be a good thing. How many have children who never listen to any advice you give but would take on board what some latest pop star or actor was talking about. Most of todays youngsters want to be famous thinking they will be rich and happy which as most of us know is not the case and one day they will come to realize this .

sandy

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Re: Jade Goody
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2009, 04:29:16 pm »
Yes, I think she has boosted at least for a while the need for smear tests, at least one of my daughters had active cells at a smear test and had treatment and has not been going back for regular 6 mths check ups, when I last spoke to her it was the first thing she said, she had been, I used Jade as an example and it kicked home I think, she is intelligent and has a family, we all do it to some extent, I know I do. As I said in my last post, I really see no problems with celebratory worship! I don't do it as I do not think people in my eyes are valued for fame or wealth, me and my partner truly treat people all the same and I have met people literally from all walks of life, Princes, Dukes, Arch Bishops,(not Ducks) schedule 1 offenders, psychopaths, :o homeless, asylum seekers, actors,  athlete's, politicians etc etc..I take everyones differences and value them ALL. People like to aspire to something and if people can identify with someones lifestyle and they achive fame, it can give a goal to strive for, surly better than just leading an existance?

Fluffywelshsheep

  • Joined Oct 2007
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Re: Jade Goody
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2009, 04:37:54 pm »
hiya all my 2 pennies

i can't stand her personaly,
She shoot to fame because of her faults and she turned them around to become a positive thing.

I do hope her death has increase the 'cancer is amoug us' thread. It does anoye me that for the next 3/4 months will be Jade's funeral/jade's this, jade's that.

And her kids will never be allowed to live their lives properly with out being in the eye of the public.

Let them all be!


carl

  • Joined Oct 2007
Re: Jade Goody
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2009, 04:45:13 pm »
she made the most of what she had. you didn't have to notice her if you didn't want to. but she had two kids and left them just before mothers day. hopefully her actions will help provide for these two poor kids and promote awareness of cervicle cancer. not fond of media hype, but i have a wife and a son myself.

 

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