Author Topic: OK now I have a cockerel..  (Read 6645 times)

little blue

  • Joined Jun 2009
  • Derbyshire
Re: OK now I have a cockerel..
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2011, 12:34:50 pm »
Its in lots of books & websites...

just can't see it trawling through DEFRA regs (I got bored!)
Little Blue

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: OK now I have a cockerel..
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2011, 01:52:22 pm »
Well, I had a trawl.

As ever with Defra, the info is opaque, muddled, knitted across Defra, Business Link, Directgov and other websites, largely unfathomable and generally lacking in any useful detail. 

However, as far as I can tell, the regs seem to have moved on since Katie Thear wrote in her excellent book Free-Range Poultry that we must not sell fertilised eggs for eating.

There is a lot of stuff about Class A eggs, which is what I think you need to be able to classify your eggs as if you are selling eating eggs formally in any way other than directly to the consumer.  And maybe if you have more than 350 laying hens too.  If in doubt, please do your own research!

Even for Class A classification, there is nothing much to be found about fertilised or not.  Just above where it says 'no foreign bodies', it says 'imperceptible germ'.  I imagine they mean 'germ' as in embryo, and not 'germ' as in bacterium or other disease-inducing body!  So I conclude this phrase means that no-one could detect the embryo.  It also stipulates that the eggs must be offered for sale no more than 21 days after laying; in order to use the phrase 'Extra' or 'Extra Fresh', this reduces to 4 days after laying, or possibly 9 but you must read it yourself if this will matter to you.

The document with the most detail in is this one:
http://adlib.everysite.co.uk/resources/000/264/132/EMR1.pdf as of 18th Dec 2011 - please start your own adventure game of Seeking Egg Marketing Rules through the Defra World of Opacity and Obfuscation if you are reading this after 19th Dec 2011.

I nominate myself for the Accidental Smallholder Selfless Action Award for December.   :D
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Sylvia

  • Joined Aug 2009
Re: OK now I have a cockerel..
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2011, 02:19:31 pm »
I,ve always kept a cockerel and sold my eggs and nobody has complained yet.  Mind you, I don't sell eggs that are more than a week old, maybe that makes a difference.(Though I have never seen anyhing untoward in older eggs either)

doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Clackmannanshire
  • Qui? Moi?
Re: OK now I have a cockerel..
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2011, 05:55:19 pm »
Well, I had a trawl.
I nominate myself for the Accidental Smallholder Selfless Action Award for December.   :D
In the absence of any other nominations daft enough to even try I award you the trophy! ;D ;D ;D :trophy:
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: OK now I have a cockerel..
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2011, 06:38:16 pm »
I definitely award you the trophy - fancy reading DEFRA regs voluntarily  :trophy: :D

 

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