Author Topic: Silage  (Read 8682 times)

dizzy1pig

  • Joined Jan 2010
  • Leuchars, Fife
Silage
« on: October 05, 2011, 09:27:30 pm »
is it possible to feed goats on it??
we got 50 bales of it and only 1/2 bale of hay
so if they eat it great if not will cry :'(

egglady

  • Joined Jun 2009
Re: Silage
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2011, 09:55:53 pm »
someone was telling me the other day that they fed their horses on silage.......so on that basis presumably you could to goats?  you could try them with a wee bit and see...quite rich tho........too much too soon = runny bums tho!!

ballingall

  • Joined Sep 2008
  • Avonbridge, Falkirk
Re: Silage
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2011, 11:32:46 pm »
What size are the bales? You can feed it- the issue with silage is that once a bale is opened it needs to be used up in just a few days (3-4 days I believe). Most smallholders don't have enough goats to eat that much silage in that length of time. I know some goatkeepers who have their goats on mixed farms along with cattle and sheep, and they feed silage, as there are enough animals using it to use it up quickly.


Beth

daddymatty82

  • Joined Aug 2010
  • swindon
Re: Silage
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2011, 09:41:22 am »
with 50 sheep we could not feed 1 ton of silage quick enough and ended up making the sheep ill  by the mistake so if you can feed a bale with in  2-3 days then go for it otherwise i would not risk it imo

Mel Rice

  • Joined Sep 2011
Re: Silage
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2011, 10:12:30 am »
I feed a roll o0f hayledge to my horse BUT only once its well below freezing then it seems to keep whilst he makes his way through it!! (We do have weeks on end here where minus four is a hot day!)

Roxy

  • Joined May 2009
  • Peak District
    • festivalcarriages.co.uk
Re: Silage
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2011, 10:21:29 am »
I buy big bales of haylage and feed that to the ponies and the goats too - goats enjoy it, but sometimes if its strong, it tastes in the milk, and its not nice.  This haylage is quite dry, which I prefer - the goats rather that than the wetter stuff.

Silage is made primarily for cows, and is usually baled a lot qucker than haylage, so is wetter and greener, andin my view not suitable for goats or horses.  I would not give my goats silage.

You said it was silage, but if its small bales, then its haylage.  Usually have to use the small bales within 5 days, so if you have a number of goats that would be ok.  You need to be sure the bags have not any holes, as the haylage will be spoilt and unusable.

One thing - do not suddenly change from hay to haylage -  mix it, and introduce gradually if you can - that will mean getting more hay obviously.  Sudden change can cause tummy upsets.  And usually you can reduce the amount of haylage against what you would feed hay, as it fills them up (well it does mine!)

dizzy1pig

  • Joined Jan 2010
  • Leuchars, Fife
Re: Silage
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2011, 02:08:56 pm »
defo silage... it smells as you wals by and is big bales...
9 goats left so guess i should see about selling silage and buying some hay..
Ouch that will hurt...

Roxy

  • Joined May 2009
  • Peak District
    • festivalcarriages.co.uk
Re: Silage
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2011, 11:06:44 pm »
Oh dear ........is there no way you could return them to where you bought them from, and maybe exchange for hay or haylage?  You definitely do not need 50 big bales for 9 goats.  We probably only use 30 big bales through the winter for 10 ponies and 17 goats,

Smaller bales of haylage would be more useable, or even the slightly larger square ones which may be more economical.

Do hope you get sorted.  I would think you could sell the silage easy enough to someone with cows.

Rosemary

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Barry, Angus, Scotland
    • The Accidental Smallholder
Re: Silage
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2011, 07:48:14 am »
someone was telling me the other day that they fed their horses on silage.......

They may well do but silage isn't suitable for horses.

Corrie Dhu

  • Joined Jul 2011
Re: Silage
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2011, 09:47:45 am »
50 large bales?  My cows eat 2 bales each per month if there is no grass (ie deep snow cover).  You need to use it up in 3 days max, and the problem with silage in most animals is listeriosis, I have no idea if goats get listeriosis but sheep do. 

As long as the bales haven't been punctured in transport you should be able to sell them quite easily.

You won't need anything like 50 large bales of hay for nine goats.

egglady

  • Joined Jun 2009
Re: Silage
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2011, 07:52:47 pm »
someone was telling me the other day that they fed their horses on silage.......

They may well do but silage isn't suitable for horses.

I wouldnt feed it to my horses either...but was just sharing a conversation... :(

dizzy1pig

  • Joined Jan 2010
  • Leuchars, Fife
Re: Silage
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2011, 09:03:49 pm »
Cheers for all replies..
Have not bought the silage it came of our policy park before a wedding.
dont get upset egglady.. some replies at moment bit "direct"
Managed to source some hay...
think at price will be getting mixed wi straw..
And all my cattle went ta ta so no need for silage now.

Rosemary

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Barry, Angus, Scotland
    • The Accidental Smallholder
Re: Silage
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2011, 10:21:06 pm »
someone was telling me the other day that they fed their horses on silage.......

They may well do but silage isn't suitable for horses.

I wouldnt feed it to my horses either...but was just sharing a conversation... :(

I know you wouldn't but didn't want anyone looking at this to think it was a sound practice  :)

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Silage
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2011, 01:51:17 am »
someone was telling me the other day that they fed their horses on silage.......

They may well do but silage isn't suitable for horses.

I wouldnt feed it to my horses either...but was just sharing a conversation... :(

I know you wouldn't but didn't want anyone looking at this to think it was a sound practice  :)

Well I'd heard silage was not a good idea for equines but I haven't found any reason anywhere I've looked or asked.  Anyone here know what is the problem with it?
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

Corrie Dhu

  • Joined Jul 2011
Re: Silage
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2011, 07:02:07 am »
I believe silage is too acidic for horses, plus they'd scour on it, and you know what they are like with colic and other ailments.

That said, I too have heard of horses eating it and looking well on it.  I wouldn't like to risk it tho!

 

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