[andywalt]

and out of your three tups which one produces the best meat lambs for you?

[Padge]

Definately the Hampshire producing robust fast finishing lambs

[feldar]

yippee hampshires are fab!!!

[andywalt]

I asked because someone said to me the llanwog y thingy   was a very good terminal sire but I wasnt connvinced ! how do you find them? whats the advantages?

[feldar]

I wouldn't use the llanwenog as a terminal sire but definately cross a hampshire tup with a Llanwenog ewe for a good meat lamb.
We also cross a first cross Llanwenog x hamp with a hamp again and get a cracking meat lamb
But it's all personal preference, Charolais and suffolks make great terminal sires too

[andywalt]

thanks very much, im slowly learning about all the breeds and what they are capable of, its nice to be able to check out opinions, I didnt think much of the llanwenog myself either I must admit

[Pasture Farm]

we had the llanwenog for breeding pure with a view to expansion     same with the Lleyn       

[andywalt]

for breeding pure is very differant, conservation of a breed is great.... but terminal sire   .....nice to hear what people do to make there lambs nice and meaty 

[Padge]

feldar.....we have kept a couple of first hamp lleyn x  to put back to hamp next year  we figured after the success of this year they would give another excellent carcass

[feldar]

Yes that sounds like a good cross to me. We think the second crosses are better than the first cross, almost have bums like a Beltex!

[Pasture Farm]

we are of course aware that a rare breed  slower maturing  gives an excellent flavour    we feel; that the hampshire/lleyn x gave the best of both    finishing well on good pasture  good depth of flavour  and meltingly soft texture     we have yet to see the result of the suffolk/hamp x   

[andywalt]

so what date do you put in your tup? im lambing out side so we wont put him in until Nov 5th for April 1st lambing

[feldar]

For purebreeds he goes in in late July for Dec lambing, the commercial flock crosses etc he goes in 1st October for Feb/March lambing