jonkil, I have just bought the first one but the second looks more suitable!! I bought a pack of 2 from Argos and they were £9.99, so I have put one on our pantry door and it does not re set when you shut the door, you have to press the front so a bit of a faf for the front door with men in and out like one of those swiss clocks!! It also emits an ear piercing noise!!!!!! so I dare not try again.
My yale lock normal front door opens into a porch, IF I shut that door it locks as it is 300 year old strong door with a BIG LOCK, however, keys for that are?
up to £200 each and people would love to take them home!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO we keep that open when people are comming and going, many love the idea of nipping across the road for a drink and some stand outside to have a smoke, this can be in the middle of the night!!!! I shall work something better out as the second one looks ideal, thanks, I saw that one and thought it would suit, I was also thinking about a remote camera, there was one on the porch but disconneted by the previouse owner, my front door is a long way off our living room!!! THe men here at the moment are great, its the odd oldy like me that forgets to lock the door...see the old uns are vulnerable and leave doors open like doganjo......maybe we need a night porter