Author Topic: Hello  (Read 5315 times)

reedos

  • Joined Jul 2011
  • Barton Upon Humber
Hello
« on: July 22, 2011, 08:39:53 pm »
Hello all been reading this forum for a little while, whilst hoping and planning for the opportunity to upgrade from our allotments to renting a field somewhere nearby and expanding into livestock.

Well we found a field about 50 yards walk from our house, located the owner, plucked up courage and knocked on the door. It all seemed to be going well, the field is 2.6 acres and is currently overgrown - after some initial misgivings about planning permission and livestock housing the landlord agreed to rent it to us for £60-00 per month. We have no idea if this is too much, but it's worth that to us - so I guess it isn't really ;D So far things were going OK.

The day before yesterday we got a letter from the landlord basically asking us to share the cost of drawing up a contract, but not telling us how much it would be. We replied (it turns out the landlord lives next door but one but they only talk to us by letter!) straight away explaining that we wanted to use the land for us, that we may sell some surplus produce and would like a contract of around 3 years to give us chance to plan for stuff with some certainty. We expressed our surprise that the tenant would be involved in paying for a contract the landlod drew up.

Today we have another letter asking for two referees, offering us a one year contract, asking for more detail as to what extent and where we wanted to sell our surplus from and telling us that advice from their land agent was that the tenant paid for the whole cost of the contract - but again not telling us how much it'd be. Is this normal, how can we agree to pay for something when we don't know the costs don't appear to have much input into what goes into it.

We are very keen to take the field, we really want to have a go at producing our own food etc but we don't want to be taken for a ride - can anybody offer any advice as to how we approach things from here?

Sandy

  • Guest
Re: Hello
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2011, 09:03:13 pm »
Hi, sounds an ideal bit of land but you seem to have to do all the work. I suppose you can get a contract written up fairly cheaply, just ring around some solicitors to see if there is a fixed fee, although there may also be complecations that will put the price up. Good luck,!!

doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Clackmannanshire
  • Qui? Moi?
Re: Hello
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2011, 11:33:56 pm »
I think your neighbour has seen an opportunity to make some cash here.  I'd have a word off the cuff with a friendly land agent.  Just a general query should do it.  Thsi site might help - http://www.netlawman.co.uk/bizdoclist/equestrian-land-leases.php
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

little blue

  • Joined Jun 2009
  • Derbyshire
Re: Hello
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2011, 11:15:16 am »
hello and welcome :wave:
Little Blue

faith0504

  • Joined Aug 2010
  • Cairngorms
  • take it easy and chill
    • blaemuir cottage
Re: Hello
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2011, 10:32:57 am »
hi and welcome and good luck from moray  :wave:

reedos

  • Joined Jul 2011
  • Barton Upon Humber
Re: Hello
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2011, 10:26:40 pm »
Thanks for your replies and welcoming messages - we've drafted a sternly worded letter, well a letter anyway. I spoke to some local land agents and it is normal apparently to get the tennant to pay the costs of the contract - but more sneakily than they were bineg, they advised to add it into the rent! (I pretended to have land and had got somebody asking me if they could rent it)

Anyway we await their reply!

sam.t

  • Joined Mar 2009
  • goole east yorkshire
Re: Hello
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2011, 06:49:58 am »
i no it not the same but if you live in private housing you have to pay towards the cost of the tennancy agreement so would think this is simular
i would be worried about the 1 year contract though he could just be using to to clear the site and makeing it usable if very over grow then thats a lot of work for not very long a lease
but on the plus side welcome to the forum
sam (east yorksire )  :) :chook:

reedos

  • Joined Jul 2011
  • Barton Upon Humber
Re: Hello
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2011, 08:27:01 pm »
Well it's finally done, we signed on the dotted line yesterday - have spent the best part of two days strimming and moving stuff. I'm knackered but it's just great ;D

Miss Piggy

  • Joined Mar 2011
  • Cardigan Bay, Ceredigion
Re: Hello
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2011, 09:50:09 pm »
Welcome from West Wales, good luck in your new venture  :wave: :pig: :chook: :cow: :dog: :sheep:

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Hello
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2011, 11:27:13 pm »
Congratulations reedos and a belated welcome from north Cumbria  :wave:
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

Rosemary

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Barry, Angus, Scotland
    • The Accidental Smallholder
Re: Hello
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2011, 09:49:56 am »
Congratulations and enjoy!

melodrama

  • Joined Jun 2011
  • Forfar
Re: Hello
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2011, 10:55:49 am »
Hello  :wave:

Dougal

  • Joined Jul 2011
  • Port O' Menteith, Stirlingshire
Re: Hello
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2011, 01:02:15 pm »
All the best to you, nice little start for you. Where are you based?
It's always worse for someone else, so get your moaning done before they start using up all the available symathy!

SteveHants

  • Joined Aug 2011
Re: Hello
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2011, 02:22:42 pm »
Good luck!

I guess the benefits of a formal contract are obvious, as you have some recourse. I don't have one and graze about 6ac. My rent is one lamb/year, some fencing (materials supplied) and taking pigs to slaughter (fuel paid for).

Usual rents for sheep grazing are 20p/week/ewe, which works out at about £10/yr. Hope this is helpful.

reedos

  • Joined Jul 2011
  • Barton Upon Humber
Re: Hello
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2011, 08:48:19 pm »
All the best to you, nice little start for you. Where are you based?


Thankyou all - North Lincolnshire

 

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