Author Topic: meet Meg !!!  (Read 12735 times)

pikilily

  • Joined Jan 2009
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meet Meg !!!
« on: July 11, 2011, 08:01:07 am »
this is our new girl. she is ten weeks old, bright as a new button, and already a real character. I hope that i will be able to train her to help me with the sheep, LOL !!!
She will be a house dog too!
Looking for tips on laying the basics for working sheepdogs!!!!
Emma T
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faith0504

  • Joined Aug 2010
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Re: meet Meg !!!
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2011, 08:05:28 am »
she is lovely, she looks very cheeky  :wave:

Sandy

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Re: meet Meg !!!
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2011, 08:06:07 am »
 :) Shes a pretty dog, nice photo too, good luck with trainning!!!! :dog:

Rosemary

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Barry, Angus, Scotland
    • The Accidental Smallholder
Re: meet Meg !!!
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2011, 08:07:57 am »
She's lovely. We've got a tricolour Meg too.

Try henderson-hill border collies. Very nice people, very experienced and very helpful.

Simon O

  • Joined Mar 2010
  • Bonkle
Re: meet Meg !!!
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2011, 08:10:45 am »
Nice! - Looks like a cross between our Meg and Molly with added brown bits. Hope we never go to a sheepdg convention and someone shouts Come Here Meg and 100 dogs come running!
Simon

feldar

  • Joined Apr 2011
  • lymington hampshire
Re: meet Meg !!!
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2011, 09:29:26 am »
I have a collie called Meg, but she is called lots of other names too none of them repeatable! still we love her even when she and the sheep dissappear into the next field and the next and the next............!!!!!!

Hilarysmum

  • Joined Oct 2007
Re: meet Meg !!!
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2011, 09:36:19 am »
She is lovely  :D

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
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Re: meet Meg !!!
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2011, 09:51:30 am »
She's gorgeous!

I am a fan of Derek Scrimgeour's methods - I use his book Talking Sheepdogs and DVD The Shepherd's Pup.  I'm also lucky enough to live nearby to where he does his training clinics, so I attend the odd day or two at those.  Although his training is aimed very much at a trialling dog, all his techniques work for dogs who will work for real on a farm.  All his dogs work on the hill or he won't breed from them, and most if not all will have had a period living and working on a farm learning their sheep sense.

I like his methods as it's all about harnessing the natural behaviours of the dog, telling it what it's doing ('put a word to it') so it can learn to follow commands (or 'invitations' as they should be, especially with a young dog.)  He says it's pointless telling any dog - but especially a collie - off for what it's just done, as the dog is already thinking about what it's doing now or is about to do!  So, for instance, he'll 'threaten the ground' (point a poly pipe and perhaps also growl at it) just ahead of where the dog is; the dog will avoid that bit of ground and widen its run.

Whoever's methods you choose, you will have the most rewarding relationship you can imagine as you and your pup start to work as a team.  I've had dogs all my adult life, and done obedience and agility and so on, but the feeling of working sheep with your collie workmate is in a league all of its own.
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pikilily

  • Joined Jan 2009
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Re: meet Meg !!!
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2011, 10:37:39 am »
Thanks for all the positive comments. I have been told by an old shepherd/trialler from aberdeen that shes a 'cracker'. LOL whilst i am blethering to his wife he was chacking her alllllll over, teeth, eyes, legs, the lot !!! I got her from my sheepy-guru. Her sire is an international stud for working dogs and her mum is an agility champ (owned by Mrs Guru who judges at crufts and teaches all over)....perhaps i have taken on a real challenge!!!! 

I have had 'hunners' of dogs all my days... but this is the first working style collie.

Sally - your man seems to be talking my sort of language...will check it out.  She has already been herding my other dog, Oddy, when she is out playing so i have been 'telling her what she is doing' ie come by etc!! LOl its funny using a different language. Especially 'that'll do' cos i always want to add the 'PIG' bit  ;D ;D ;D ;D

she is already showing understanding of sit, liedown, that'll do, come, no, and of course her name. i have also been using a whistle to get her attention to be followed by a 'command' depending on whether she comes, stands, sits or lies down- so far so good I hope!! ?????
Emma T  :dog:

If you don't have a dream; how you gonna have a dream come true?

Rosemary

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Re: meet Meg !!!
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2011, 10:45:18 am »
Julie and Bobby use similar methods to Derek, by the sounds of it. They're in Heriot, Midlothian.

princesspiggy

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Re: meet Meg !!!
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2011, 11:34:26 am »
They're in Heriot, Midlothian.

ooh, do u think james herriot (real name james wight) named himself after heriot? cos he was scottish and studied in that area.?
cute pup, id love a working beardie to help me out so let us know how ur training goes!!  :wave: :wave:

pikilily

  • Joined Jan 2009
  • Do what you enjoy; And enjoy what you do!!
Re: meet Meg !!!
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2011, 12:40:23 pm »
LOL - my writing skills arent up to competing with Bridget Jones but we could run with a training diary of a Collie-flower!
Emma T
If you don't have a dream; how you gonna have a dream come true?

ellisr

  • Joined Sep 2009
  • Wales
Re: meet Meg !!!
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2011, 01:07:55 pm »
I found when training my collie it was easier after exercise as he focused better and wasn't quite so eager, but alas he is scared of sheep and haven't been able to persuade him otherwise he spend his time in the field with his head up my jumper and scrape with his nails trying to climb up so he can get the rest of his body up there too

princesspiggy

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Re: meet Meg !!!
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2011, 01:27:00 pm »
I found when training my collie it was easier after exercise as he focused better and wasn't quite so eager, but alas he is scared of sheep and haven't been able to persuade him otherwise he spend his time in the field with his head up my jumper and scrape with his nails trying to climb up so he can get the rest of his body up there too

ahh bless!

p - a diary wud be great! please do it! how do u select a working pup from a litter from working parents? with 3 (useless? lol) dogs already, when we eventually get our working beardie pup, id be very disappointed if it wouldnt work.

Hermit

  • Joined Feb 2010
Re: meet Meg !!!
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2011, 02:51:54 pm »
Good luck with her, we followed Derek S's way of training as far as we could . My dogs are so different and strong headed they are too bloody minded for trials but are brilliant on the hill where they use their own initiative a bit more. A good trial dog may be useless on the hill so get to know your dog and his mind so you can use what he has in his head to your advantage. I have one dog that is brilliant at rounding the sheep up , he is very wide and will sweep the hill to bring everyone back but when he has brought them to us he will just lay and stare at them like a zombie ::).Another 'close work dog'  will then take over and pen them. They are all different, a dog that will do it all is worth its weight in gold.

 

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