Author Topic: Environmental impact of gritting roads in winter  (Read 11266 times)

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Environmental impact of gritting roads in winter
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2011, 09:50:08 pm »
OH has pointed out that the willows we planted nearest to the main road have been blasted while she's found examples of a plant growing in the verge which is normally only found in coastal areas.

Thanks for putting us back on track, wh!
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ambriel

  • Joined Jan 2011
  • Kinlochbervie, NW Sutherland, Scotland
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Re: Environmental impact of gritting roads in winter
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2011, 10:21:46 pm »
Round here I don't know anyone else who owns tyre chains.
So far as I know I'm the only person round here with a set, too. They're bl@@dy brilliant, though!

Our driveway is on a roughly 20 degree slope and prior to getting the chains it was nigh-on impossible to get the car out in the snowy weather. The ice was four inches deep when I broke it up with a demolition hammer.

The chains, although fiddly to fit, enable me to drive up with little fuss at all.

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Environmental impact of gritting roads in winter
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2011, 12:01:39 am »
So, don't you have to keep taking them off and putting them back on again?  Or can you drive on cleared roads as well as snoy, icy & slushy ones?
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

tobytoby

  • Joined May 2011
  • north ayrshire
Re: Environmental impact of gritting roads in winter
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2011, 01:58:28 pm »
I work in roads maintenance as my day job, and fortunately we do not put salt heaps on the verges. The main reason it is put there is so that the folk staying in rural parts that are not part of a classfied/priority route treatment area, can treat it themselves as required.
Last year we had the water tested in our balancing pond next to our salt barn, which indicated a higher than usual amount of salinity, but actually it had a higher content of beasties than some of our other ponds.It is amazing how resilient verges etc are, but areas that are directly under a pile of salt can take years to come back to life - therefore normal salt spreading operations don't have as much of an impact on the environment as you might think.

You might have heard about rock salt that is coated with molasses to make it last longer from the rain/dampness - but on the routes that this is spread on - you will find a lot of road kill, as the animals like the taste of salt and sugary coated molasses and so does Hugh F W.

Nevermind the salt - you wouldn't believe the amount of heavy metals that you would find in a puddle next to the kerb on the street (and all of us road users are to blame for that)?

If you canvass your local roads dept - they might stop putting out salt heaps, as budget cuts is playing a big part in operational tasks, and any decent excuse not to put salt out, will save them money.

PS - i do Motorways not rural roads

jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: Environmental impact of gritting roads in winter
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2011, 02:02:12 pm »
They've stopped putting out piles of molassed salt round here after the year the
sheep ate it all in the piles, long before anyone could use it on the roads  :D

ambriel

  • Joined Jan 2011
  • Kinlochbervie, NW Sutherland, Scotland
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    • Harbour Cottage
Re: Environmental impact of gritting roads in winter
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2011, 09:08:52 pm »
So, don't you have to keep taking them off and putting them back on again?  Or can you drive on cleared roads as well as snoy, icy & slushy ones?
You wouldn't want to drive far on a cleared road with them on but for short journeys it's ok.

Some days I only really needed them to get up the drive.

robert waddell

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Re: Environmental impact of gritting roads in winter
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2011, 09:35:05 pm »
so tobytoby that will be bear or amey you work for :wave:

jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: Environmental impact of gritting roads in winter
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2011, 07:56:13 am »
Round here some people use 'snow socks' which I think can cope with a bit of cleared road.
I just have a set of winter wheels/tyres and summer ones. They're on the car about 6 months each  ::)

tobytoby

  • Joined May 2011
  • north ayrshire
Re: Environmental impact of gritting roads in winter
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2011, 12:02:37 pm »
Robert Waddell

I don't kiss and tell, but i used to work for one of them - since moved on, but in the same line of business.

 

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