Author Topic: Pond dug braced for council...  (Read 13462 times)

shetlandpaul

  • Joined Oct 2008
Re: Pond dug braced for council...
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2011, 08:23:12 am »
don't forget to muck spread to insure the grass grows well.

if your building a new pond its better to read up on it. were is the water coming from. there could be grants for making a wildlife improvement. as helencus is restoring an old pond maybe talk to the nature folks and get them to give advice same with the councils nature advisors get them on side will help . just in case someone moans. there is the other option of a travellers camp site opposite there front door.

ellisr

  • Joined Sep 2009
  • Wales
Re: Pond dug braced for council...
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2011, 09:06:38 am »
Willow was what I'd planned along there view line so think I might see if it roots. ;D
 Im braced again today as we spread some of the topsoil on the field and seeded it and a local farmer is coming to roll it.. Oh yes a 2 ton roller going past their house into my field should stir them up!
Seriously though who needs it.. Why do some people move to the countryside then object to farm machinery and livestock? These folks complained about the noise from my cockerel too. I mean get a bloody life why don't you, if you dont like it sod off back to the city.

Gosh i know how you feel, I must have the same neighbour. Mine is now complaining about the smell from the sheep (note to self must find new brand of perfume for the ewes) I have the footings for a large stable which was removed 5 years ago so this year I may just have a one built again and block his view from my land (garden and small paddock) the fields unfortunately I cannot block from his view so he will be at his window all summer watching me working again.

Helencus

  • Joined Feb 2010
  • NW Leicestershire
Re: Pond dug braced for council...
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2011, 10:03:17 am »
Well I'm able to block their view and haven't so far as I'm a nice person really but they're pushing me. I'm sure the smell of my pigs wafts over the field to them and that must annoy them too. I'm seriously considering get my solicitor to write to them to clarify that I do have access rights but that just stirs things up more I suppose. Anyway I mean seriously why would there be a concrete bridge over a stream with a 14 foot farm gate leading to my field at the end of a no through lane if it wasn't for access to the field?? Are some people just stupid or just bloody thick.
I did get in touch with the pond conservation society and they've sent me lots of info so I'm ploughing through that. I did also ring the council anonymously and ask if I needed permission to dig out a silted up pond and they said no, ok it was a lot of silt as it was totally filled in but it's still what we've done. I also told the parish council what we were doing and they were happy but guaranteed we will still get hassle.

robert waddell

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Re: Pond dug braced for council...
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2011, 10:24:11 am »
you would think that you would have access to your field             they could be right  :wave:
it just so happens that we own the access and road to our neighbours land very confusing for the owner and his tenant    even if our neighbours titles claim it as theres simples :wave:

doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Clackmannanshire
  • Qui? Moi?
Re: Pond dug braced for council...
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2011, 11:04:55 am »
don't forget to muck spread to insure the grass grows well.

if your building a new pond its better to read up on it. were is the water coming from. there could be grants for making a wildlife improvement. as helencus is restoring an old pond maybe talk to the nature folks and get them to give advice same with the councils nature advisors get them on side will help . just in case someone moans. there is the other option of a travellers camp site opposite there front door.
I have been here - all that must be done BEFORE you lift a spade to the ground!
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

Helencus

  • Joined Feb 2010
  • NW Leicestershire
Re: Pond dug braced for council...
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2011, 12:56:28 pm »
Agreed Annie mine isn't a new pond it's an old one silted up and I've the maps that clearly show it. New ponds do need planning.
As for the access lillian the neighbours do not own the land we cross land registry isn't sure who does it's about 20 metres of unadopted road at the end of a council owned lane. I've tried to find out but it's not been possible.

robert waddell

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Re: Pond dug braced for council...
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2011, 01:06:05 pm »
the land registry will take more digging than your pond :wave:

Womble

  • Joined Mar 2009
  • Stirlingshire, Central Scotland
Re: Pond dug braced for council...
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2011, 03:53:55 pm »
we are taking bets on how long it will take for the neighbours to complain and the council to jump in.

like if it's a hot day and they need to cool off for instance?  ;D
"All fungi are edible. Some fungi are only edible once." -Terry Pratchett

Helencus

  • Joined Feb 2010
  • NW Leicestershire
Re: Pond dug braced for council...
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2011, 09:25:26 pm »
Well there's no water in it yet womble so here's hoping :-))

doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Clackmannanshire
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Re: Pond dug braced for council...
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2011, 11:42:43 pm »
Agreed Annie mine isn't a new pond it's an old one silted up and I've the maps that clearly show it. New ponds do need planning.
As for the access lillian the neighbours do not own the land we cross land registry isn't sure who does it's about 20 metres of unadopted road at the end of a council owned lane. I've tried to find out but it's not been possible.
A friend of mine is in a  similar position.  He looked back old deeds to see if the land was ever attached to his or adjacent properties, then if so, followed them through various ownership changes till he got to the point when they disappeared from any deeds.  Then you need to check sales of land in the area to see if the land was transferred (sale/gift/bequeathed etc.)  Then  the services of a lawyer are required to prove it's yours if it appears to be so.
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

Newfoundland

  • Joined Apr 2011
Re: Pond dug braced for council...
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2011, 01:42:03 pm »
Who could possibly object to a pond? I think it is restoring an invaluable environmental asset! What is wrong with people?

Helencus

  • Joined Feb 2010
  • NW Leicestershire
Re: Pond dug braced for council...
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2011, 04:39:54 pm »
That's the aim, we're keen to encourage wildlife if we can. Not heard anything yet but council are off now so I bet it'll be next week now.

Hilarysmum

  • Joined Oct 2007
Re: Pond dug braced for council...
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2011, 06:11:51 pm »
I wonder if I can send a couple of dozen french frogs over to you.  Very exotic, very noisy, sound like frogs in a jungle, and at 2 am they are noisier than a rock band.

shearling

  • Joined Mar 2011
Re: Pond dug braced for council...
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2011, 05:37:59 pm »
What an interesting read. Thankfully, touch wood, our neighbours are OK. But, we have 'silted-up' pond too just outside our walled-garden. We have just started to removed the silt. What are the regs re ponds? is it just in designated fields or is it to do with size? Given the cutbacks they may end up ringing a dead-end answer machine or post box address - one benefit ;D

AengusOg

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Re: Pond dug braced for council...
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2011, 09:51:37 pm »
Have you seen this? http://www.ehow.com/farm-pond/

I wish I could have a pond. There is one on the farm on which we live, about an acre or so in size, but it needs lots of planting for more wildlife. There are sticklebacks, and billions of frogs and toads in it, but no larger fish, despite there being abundant invertebrates. It's fed via a small temporary dam in the burn (as and when required), and has a deep water outlet via an adjustable sluice.

I have seen several species of ducks on it all year round, and it has seasonal visitors such as swans, little grebes, kingfishers, herons, and even the odd cormorant. Recently I found an otter spraint on a rock near the inlet, and sandy footprints in the end of the inlet pipe. I think an otter is running through the pipe when it is not in use.

Having a sandy edge in places, and gravel/chuckie stones in others, it is great for seeing tracks of other visitors. I've seen badger and fox prints, cats from the farm have left marks, and roe deer drink from it regularly. It seems to be a bit of a watering hole. Our horses drink from it too when they are in there.

The one downside to it is the steepness of its sides over much of its perimeter. In places it drops quickly into deep water and is probably about 1in5 in a few bits; too steep for planting, and it doesn't allow much for warm shallows which are liked by most pond dwellers at some time or other.

Friends of mine have a really nice pond in their large garden. It is fed by a tiny spring, at a fairly constant but slow rate, and they have created a bog garden at the outlet, where it soaks a large area of one side of the pond and just dissipates from there. They have planted wild species and some complimentary cultivars, and they even have some goldfish in it which have bred successfully some years.

Having young children, it has always been difficult for me to commit to a pond in the garden, so we have a Belfast sink. It has a large-hole weldmesh grid over it, and we have some Iris and spiral grass in it. The kids get spawn from the big pond and grow frogs and toads. Nothing ever spawns in the sink, though, so I wonder if adult frogs go back to their pond of birth even having been reared elsewhere. We put whitecloud mountain minnows in it in the summer as they eat any mosquito larvae which may arrive.

Now the kids are a bit more able, I am thinking of a garden location to have a raised pond with a bit of running water...I'm away out for a look.

Shearling...I don't know about regs, but I think there are some considerations to do with diverting existing watercourses, especially if the water continues back to source after servicing the pond. SEPA (in Scotland) will probably have some say in that.

 

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