Author Topic: Horrible Horsemanship  (Read 19699 times)

Hardfeather

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Horrible Horsemanship
« on: February 10, 2011, 08:13:04 pm »

Rosemary

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Re: Horrible Horsemanship
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2011, 08:21:45 pm »
Well, at least it wasn't Linda Parelli, eh?

Shocking - either very brave or very stupid. They were certainly very lucky that things didn't turn out worse than they did.

I take it it was not in the UK, by the background.

egglady

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Re: Horrible Horsemanship
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2011, 08:22:37 pm »
oh dear God, I cried when i was watching this.  how can people be so stupid and uncaring?  that poor horse was terrified and could so easily have been killed.  i almost was glad, and that's so not like me, to see the cart being destroyed and the stupid people falling off.

how can we ever make life better for horses when this stupidity is still going on??????

faith0504

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Re: Horrible Horsemanship
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2011, 08:48:19 pm »
it beggers belief, makes me soooooooooo vvveeerrrryyyy angery, going to stop there before i say something i shouldnt  >:( >:( :( :o ??? ??? ::) ::)   


poor horse  :'( :'( :'( :'(

Womble

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Re: Horrible Horsemanship
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2011, 09:03:27 pm »
What a beautiful animal!  But couldn't they see it was terrified?
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knightquest

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Re: Horrible Horsemanship
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2011, 09:35:15 pm »
Not a horse person but how the **** can they do that????

Stupid doesn't come near to describing them but I sure did like the look on the horses face right at the end when it looked back at the wrecked cart ...... made my night, the horse was saying "That's what happens when you mess with me!"

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Rosemary

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Re: Horrible Horsemanship
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2011, 09:23:46 am »
I just watched it again. Incredible. What on earth did they thing they were doing. The horse looks remarkably OK at the end having destroyed the cart and tipped off the idiots on it. Loved the idea of sending off the wee Highland type in front - what a shambles.

Looked like a nice horse too. Wonder what happened next.

loosey

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  • Cornwall
Re: Horrible Horsemanship
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2011, 10:40:43 am »
What on earth????!!!!!

I can't say anything that's not full of hate and expletives!!

Hardfeather

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Re: Horrible Horsemanship
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2011, 10:56:15 am »
I wonder if that was the end...

Once the idiots with the reins stopped hauling on its mouth, the horse did seem to calm down.

It just shows what can happen when horses are ill-prepared for such scenarios. Even on the longe, the horse looked uneasy and non-attentive, and I suspect it had not done much of that. There seemed not to be much of a connection between handler and horse at any point in the proceedings.

Not having blinkers on the bridle also went against them, as the horse was always able to see the cart behind, and this just kept upsetting him. It is possible to work some horses without blinkers, but not every horse will accept the sight of something behind.

I'm always preaching about preparation, and repetition, and how important it is to make sure the horse is comfortable with all aspects of his current training before he is asked to do something progressive. Not only does that build his confidence, but it gives the trainer a safe return to the previous level if/when things get ropy. In the event that he becomes nervous or upset, if the horse can be asked to do something he is familiar and comfortable with, he will likely settle quickly and any damage can be limited. Then the horse can be asked again when he is ready to progress.

The other main issue there was that no-one thought to attempt to inhibit the horse's vision. Every time he saw the cart, and tried to run away, all they did was try to restrain and restrict him. He was bound to fight them as a result of being held by the mouth in the face of something so fearful to him. Had any of the people had any idea, someone should have had their top off and applied a blindfold to the horse's head. As soon as he was unable to see, he would have been easier to handle until he was released from the harness. Even hands cupped behind his eyes can often be enough to focus the horse on the person at his head, preventing him from seeing behind, for long enough to make him safe.

When a horse's flight instinct kicks in, the last thing the handler should do is set themself against him and attempt to physically hold him. His instinct is telling him to flee, yet he is unable to do so. He becomes a very dangerous animal who just wants to put distance between himself and the object of his fear. If some fool is trying to hold him by the mouth, the pain will only add to his determination to get away.

Anyone can make mistakes when training horses, but the good horseman/woman should always be thinking what they may have to do quickly, in the interests of damage limitation, if things don't go according to plan.

It was a real shame what they did to that lovely horse, and I doubt if he'll ever make a driving animal after that. He'll certainly need lots of remedial training to help him do anything now.


faith0504

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Re: Horrible Horsemanship
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2011, 11:22:47 am »
folk dont get that experience could more than likely make that horse undriveable now or worst case scenerio wont trust humans again, im sure it would take someone a long long time to win that poor horse over again, but that experience will always be there in the back of his head, horses never forget, anything.

if only people would think im still so mad and desperately sorry for that poor poor horse  :'( :'( :'( :'( 

janeislay

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Re: Horrible Horsemanship
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2011, 05:24:51 pm »
Couldn't watch more than about five seconds of it. Right from the start it was obvious they hadn't got a clue.

robert waddell

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Re: Horrible Horsemanship
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2011, 05:56:41 pm »
yet another stupid utube bit of crap the daft bint with the whip should have been whipped herself      nice horse  and stables why do these halfwits video incidents like this just to get hits hope i never meet them

daddymatty82

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Re: Horrible Horsemanship
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2011, 01:39:26 pm »
well iv seen this happen myself in uk i walked away and rang police and lied to them to get them to sort a very bad problem  ok i only got 20 yrs experiance personally and my family have around 80-100 yrs experience with horses my dad has broken horses and is teaching me to break my filly to drive this year i got a land rover tyre ready as a starter not got a cart for her yet but still you NEVER sling them straight into a cart. people like that need to grow some balls and learn how to break a horse

Rosemary

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Re: Horrible Horsemanship
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2011, 05:58:03 pm »
It's more brains they need to grow.

claire

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Re: Horrible Horsemanship
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2011, 07:00:57 pm »
idiots. poor horse. >:( >:( >:(

 

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