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T.eddie

  • Joined Jun 2024
  • Essex
Introducing my dogs
« on: June 22, 2024, 02:06:35 pm »
Hi all,
I'm new to the forum but wanted to share my 2 dogs as they are a unusual breed.

Meet Major and Luna. They are Shikoku Inu and are a Japanese deer/boar hunting dog. There aren't many in the UK and as far as I'm aware Major is the only one working in the UK. He comes with me shooting and has successfully tracked deer as well as flushed pheasants etc.

Major is going to be 5 this year and Luna is 8 months old

T.eddie

  • Joined Jun 2024
  • Essex
Re: Introducing my dogs
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2024, 02:07:17 pm »
Major

T.eddie

  • Joined Jun 2024
  • Essex
Re: Introducing my dogs
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2024, 02:10:36 pm »
Luna - it won't allow me to share another photo but I'll get one up soon

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
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Re: Introducing my dogs
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2024, 01:47:08 am »
Major is a beauty! 

I've met Akitas and Shiba Inus, but never seen a Shikoku in the flesh.
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Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

T.eddie

  • Joined Jun 2024
  • Essex
Re: Introducing my dogs
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2024, 06:05:50 am »
Thank you he really is an amazing dog. It's rare someone has even heard of the breed so definite kudos to you!

T.eddie

  • Joined Jun 2024
  • Essex
Re: Introducing my dogs
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2024, 06:06:56 am »
My profile pic has both major and Luna so hopefully you can see them both

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
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Re: Introducing my dogs
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2024, 10:08:09 am »
Thank you he really is an amazing dog. It's rare someone has even heard of the breed so definite kudos to you!

Dogs used to be one of my "special interest"s as a kid.  (I think it's possibly UK sheep now.)  If my *general* knowledge were better and I didn't freeze like a rabbit in headlights in front of a video camera, I could have won Mastermind!  lol
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

Rosemary

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Barry, Angus, Scotland
    • The Accidental Smallholder
Re: Introducing my dogs
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2024, 01:48:35 pm »
"Dogs used to be one of my "special interest"s as a kid.  "
Did you have the I-Spy book of dogs? @SallyintNorth

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
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Re: Introducing my dogs
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2024, 11:56:49 pm »
"Dogs used to be one of my "special interest"s as a kid.  "
Did you have the I-Spy book of dogs? @SallyintNorth

Oh I was well beyond iSpy!  I had all the Observers Books of Dogs, every edition I think!  And knew pretty much everything in them!  My dog books were a good shelf-full...
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Clackmannanshire
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Re: Introducing my dogs
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2024, 10:40:33 am »
Website below has details of them. As a dog championship judge I have only ever seen one in the show ring - very similar to shiba inu so I judged it from that. They aren't recognised by the UK kennel club yet - this was a small fun show. It seemed a very calm steady dog

https://www.pets4homes.co.uk/pet-advice/all-about-the-shikoku-dog-breed.html
« Last Edit: June 29, 2024, 10:45:32 am by doganjo »
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T.eddie

  • Joined Jun 2024
  • Essex
Re: Introducing my dogs
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2024, 10:48:11 am »
Website below has details of them. As a dog championship judge I have only ever seen one in the show ring - very similar to shiba inu so I judged it from that. They aren't recognised by the UK kennel club yet - this was a small fun show. It seemed a very calm steady dog

https://www.pets4homes.co.uk/pet-advice/all-about-the-shikoku-dog-breed.html

That's right not recognised over here thought it's on my list to try and get that changed. They are similar to Shiba and akita inu though shikoku are the most "primitive" natured apparently due to largely being left alone. Very good Hunters, very independent but also very loyal. Ours have been fantastic but definitely not recommended for everyone

doganjo

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Re: Introducing my dogs
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2024, 11:07:24 am »
Website below has details of them. As a dog championship judge I have only ever seen one in the show ring - very similar to shiba inu so I judged it from that. They aren't recognised by the UK kennel club yet - this was a small fun show. It seemed a very calm steady dog

https://www.pets4homes.co.uk/pet-advice/all-about-the-shikoku-dog-breed.html

That's right not recognised over here thought it's on my list to try and get that changed. They are similar to Shiba and akita inu though shikoku are the most "primitive" natured apparently due to largely being left alone. Very good Hunters, very independent but also very loyal. Ours have been fantastic but definitely not recommended for everyone
Needs a breed club to be established and a specific number of registrations over time before the RKC will recognise a breed.  It can take many years.  The process should have been started when the first dogs were imported.
Try to find other owners and form a breed club with an inaugural meeting to create a constitution and appoint three people acting as Chair, secretary, and Treasurer, then apply to have it registered with the KC.  This breed will be in the utility Group in the UK.
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

T.eddie

  • Joined Jun 2024
  • Essex
Re: Introducing my dogs
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2024, 09:10:55 pm »
Website below has details of them. As a dog championship judge I have only ever seen one in the show ring - very similar to shiba inu so I judged it from that. They aren't recognised by the UK kennel club yet - this was a small fun show. It seemed a very calm steady dog

https://www.pets4homes.co.uk/pet-advice/all-about-the-shikoku-dog-breed.html

That's right not recognised over here thought it's on my list to try and get that changed. They are similar to Shiba and akita inu though shikoku are the most "primitive" natured apparently due to largely being left alone. Very good Hunters, very independent but also very loyal. Ours have been fantastic but definitely not recommended for everyone
Needs a breed club to be established and a specific number of registrations over time before the RKC will recognise a breed.  It can take many years.  The process should have been started when the first dogs were imported.
Try to find other owners and form a breed club with an inaugural meeting to create a constitution and appoint three people acting as Chair, secretary, and Treasurer, then apply to have it registered with the KC.  This breed will be in the utility Group in the UK.

Thank you that's good to know, I know of 2 other owners so can look into trying that, I also saw about importing the Italian kennel club info as that's where mine are from and they are recognised over there I believe

doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
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Re: Introducing my dogs
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2024, 11:21:36 am »
The KC will need a breed standard before recognition, and you can use it from other kennel clubs as a base document, but it will have to be in the same format as other Utility breeds - have a look here
https://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/breed-standards/utility/japanese-shiba-inu/#:~:text=White%20markings%20restricted%20to%20eye,50%25%20of%20normal%20red%20area.

Standards in other countries are often more detailed.  For instance the FCI standard for my breed, Brittany (Epagneul Breton) contains very much more information than the UK one, and we had to push hard for what we have now.

They don't like change either, so make sure it's exactly what you need and be prepared to haggle Last time ours was updated was 2008!   :eyelashes:
« Last Edit: June 30, 2024, 11:26:12 am by doganjo »
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

T.eddie

  • Joined Jun 2024
  • Essex
Re: Introducing my dogs
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2024, 04:56:53 pm »
The KC will need a breed standard before recognition, and you can use it from other kennel clubs as a base document, but it will have to be in the same format as other Utility breeds - have a look here
https://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/breed-standards/utility/japanese-shiba-inu/#:~:text=White%20markings%20restricted%20to%20eye,50%25%20of%20normal%20red%20area.

Standards in other countries are often more detailed.  For instance the FCI standard for my breed, Brittany (Epagneul Breton) contains very much more information than the UK one, and we had to push hard for what we have now.

They don't like change either, so make sure it's exactly what you need and be prepared to haggle Last time ours was updated was 2008!   :eyelashes:
thanks for the heads up will definitely look into properly

 

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