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JEP

  • Joined Oct 2011
moving sheep to grazing land
« on: May 23, 2020, 09:08:52 pm »
we have been asked to move sheep to graze land
they do not have cph number
what do we need to do
thanks john
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macgro7

  • Joined Feb 2016
Re: moving sheep to grazing land
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2020, 10:58:20 pm »
Get yourself a coh number for that land - it's free  ;)
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twizzel

  • Joined Apr 2012
Re: moving sheep to grazing land
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2020, 08:18:18 am »
Or see if it’s within the distance to apply for a temporary land association, then there’s no issues with movement standstills.

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
Re: moving sheep to grazing land
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2020, 10:13:43 am »
Or see if it’s within the distance to apply for a temporary land association, then there’s no issues with movement standstills.

Just a slight caution... you can get - or cause - unintended consequences with those, if there is a contiguous case of TB at either end it can cause TB escalations around both ends.  If you don't have cattle it might not affect you directly, but if any neighbours do, you might make yourself rather unpopular ;)
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twizzel

  • Joined Apr 2012
Re: moving sheep to grazing land
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2020, 10:25:32 am »
Yes, but then if you had cattle on a different cph they are stuck there if they go down on the pre movement to come home. But then if the OP is just grazing sheep it shouldn’t be an issue. That’s why all our cattle graze at home... off grazing cattle can open a whole can of worms TB wise.

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
Re: moving sheep to grazing land
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2020, 01:00:15 pm »
Yes, but then if you had cattle on a different cph they are stuck there if they go down on the pre movement to come home. But then if the OP is just grazing sheep it shouldn’t be an issue. That’s why all our cattle graze at home... off grazing cattle can open a whole can of worms TB wise.

I am not certain that "just grazing sheep" would protect the holder's other cph if there are cattle there, or the the contiguous neighbours at either end. 
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Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cow, beef cattle, pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

JEP

  • Joined Oct 2011
Re: moving sheep to grazing land
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2020, 08:48:34 am »
thanks
there is just horses on the land
the distance is just past the 10 mile rule

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
Re: moving sheep to grazing land
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2020, 08:56:48 am »
It's not just what's on the land you use but also what's on every holding that borders all of the land you use.

I'm just saying that having a separate holding number and not linking the two has some benefits for you if you have cattle, and for all of your neighbours both ends if they have cattle.  But you would have to fill in movement records each time you moved sheep to and from the other ground. 
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Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cow, beef cattle, pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

Scarlet.Dragon

  • Joined May 2015
  • Aberdeenshire
Re: moving sheep to grazing land
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2020, 11:50:02 am »
Get the property owner to apply for the CPH and tell them that's the condition for you grazing it... that way you have a CPH number to move to; they have one if they ever decide to keep chickens or sheep themselves and everybody's happy.  It's an easy enough process and free of charge so I wouldn't think it would be an issue.
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