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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: JEP on May 23, 2020, 09:08:52 pm

Title: moving sheep to grazing land
Post by: JEP on May 23, 2020, 09:08:52 pm: we have been asked to move sheep to graze land
they do not have cph number
what do we need to do
thanks john
Title: Re: moving sheep to grazing land
Post by: macgro7 on May 23, 2020, 10:58:20 pm: Get yourself a coh number for that land - it's free ;)
Title: Re: moving sheep to grazing land
Post by: twizzel on May 24, 2020, 08:18:18 am: Or see if it’s within the distance to apply for a temporary land association, then there’s no issues with movement standstills.
Title: Re: moving sheep to grazing land
Post by: SallyintNorth on May 24, 2020, 10:13:43 am: Quote from: twizzel on May 24, 2020, 08:18:18 am
Or see if it’s within the distance to apply for a temporary land association, then there’s no issues with movement standstills.

Just a slight caution... you can get - or cause - unintended consequences with those, if there is a contiguous case of TB at either end it can cause TB escalations around both ends. If you don't have cattle it might not affect you directly, but if any neighbours do, you might make yourself rather unpopular ;)
Title: Re: moving sheep to grazing land
Post by: twizzel on May 24, 2020, 10:25:32 am: Yes, but then if you had cattle on a different cph they are stuck there if they go down on the pre movement to come home. But then if the OP is just grazing sheep it shouldn’t be an issue. That’s why all our cattle graze at home... off grazing cattle can open a whole can of worms TB wise.
Title: Re: moving sheep to grazing land
Post by: SallyintNorth on May 24, 2020, 01:00:15 pm: Quote from: twizzel on May 24, 2020, 10:25:32 am
Yes, but then if you had cattle on a different cph they are stuck there if they go down on the pre movement to come home. But then if the OP is just grazing sheep it shouldn’t be an issue. That’s why all our cattle graze at home... off grazing cattle can open a whole can of worms TB wise.

I am not certain that "just grazing sheep" would protect the holder's other cph if there are cattle there, or the the contiguous neighbours at either end.
Title: Re: moving sheep to grazing land
Post by: JEP on May 25, 2020, 08:48:34 am: thanks
there is just horses on the land
the distance is just past the 10 mile rule
Title: Re: moving sheep to grazing land
Post by: SallyintNorth on May 25, 2020, 08:56:48 am: It's not just what's on the land you use but also what's on every holding that borders all of the land you use.

I'm just saying that having a separate holding number and not linking the two has some benefits for you if you have cattle, and for all of your neighbours both ends if they have cattle. But you would have to fill in movement records each time you moved sheep to and from the other ground.