[egglady]

have also posted this in sheep as not sure where was the best place as it involves both sheep and pigs!!

hopefully someone can help me here as finding the internet info a bit confusing!

today i am collecting 2 x 6 week old piglets.

tomorrow i am due to take 2 of our tup lambs to the abbatoir.

i think this is ok becuase they are going to abbatoir - unless anyone knows different?

the bit i'm confused about is whether i can then allow a ram lamb (plus one ewe) onto our land on wednesday (today being sunday) to tup our girls?

many thanks
laura

[HappyHippy]

Hi Laura,
As far as I know once you move pigs on you have a standstill before anything can move off (20 days for other pigs and I think it's 6 or 7 days for everything else). I'm not sure if it's the same for ones going for slaughter (it's still a schedule 2 movement as far as I can make out) I'd get your lambs away to slaughter first, then move on your sheep and piglets if possible.
HTH
Karen x

[Hilarysmum]

I would phone DEFRA (take the name of the person to whom you speak) and check. 

[shetlandpaul]

http://www.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm/farmanimal/movements/pigs/documents/annexa-c-090713.pdf
annex a exemption f.
allows pigs to go to slaughter even with a standstill. the pig must go straight to either a slaughter house or slaughter market. they can't return.

[egglady]

I would phone DEFRA (take the name of the person to whom you speak) and check. 

i did phone DEFRA but of course they are closed on a sunday and dont open till 8am tomorrow - and the pigs are to be at the abbatoir by 7am tomorrow.....so defra being no help!

pigs arrived, sheep going tomorrow and i'll phone defra about the tup coming on wednesday...best i can do

[oaklandspigs]

Egglady,

Your lambs to the abattoir tomorrow will be absolutley fine, you can always move to slaughter - As confirmation Shetland Paul has given you the link that says so.

You can also ALWAYS add stock to your holding, it simply restarts the clock on you moving anything OFF, except to slaughter.

So your piglets arriving today trigger a 6 day standstill on moving any sheep off  (except to slaughter) and a 20 day on moving any pigs off (except to Slaughter).  So you will have a sheep standstill til Saturday and a pig standstill til 20th November - standstill ends at the clock time they start, so if your pigs came onto your holding at say 2.12pm today, 6 day would end at 2.12pm on Saturday).

However on Wednesday when the ram arrives, he will restart then clock, so you have 6 or 20 days from Wednesday as your first date when you can move anything off live.

Come back if the above is not clear, but don't panic you are fine with your proposals.