Well I am now the proud owner of a bucketful of grape juice thanks for the link Suziequeue! Also made Grape Jelly, which was a bit of a disaster as I used the juice I made yesterday which probably wasn't boiled enough for the pectin to surface, so I had to boil and boil and boil with no setting point! Then I added pectin and boiled again and then boiled over! OMG! What a mess! Still the upside is that my hob is now cleaner than it has been for some time, and the annoying clicking that the ignition light used to make is no more - hurrah!