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alang

  • Joined Nov 2017
  • Morayshire
Which disinfectants?
« on: November 09, 2019, 03:36:53 pm »
Would just like to get a feel which disinfectants forum members use on their smallholdings. I've been cleaning my dogs and rabbits equipment with Virkon-S and Safe4 products. What other products would you guys n gals also recommend?
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Possum

  • Joined Feb 2012
  • Somerset
Re: Which disinfectants?
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2019, 10:06:50 am »
If it is just equipment for dogs, rabbits and poultry, I use hot soapy water. The only time I would use Virkon (which is expensive) is if a specific pathogen or high risk has been identified. So I use it to disinfect the trailer after a visit to the abattoir or, for the poultry, when there is a high risk of bird flu.




Scarlet.Dragon

  • Joined May 2015
  • Aberdeenshire
Re: Which disinfectants?
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2019, 01:00:18 pm »
Call it a misspent youth but I love the smell on Jeyes Fluid so mostly that's what I use for normal wash downs. 

When I had to maintain a couple of stables as close to sterile as possible following a firework incident that left one of my horses with a skinned leg (12 months in bandages, skin grafts...), Hibiscrub was the favoured product.  Again a pleasant smell and safe to use for the circumstances.

If you need something more specialist then the Defra website shows lists of what should be used for specific disease control depending on the location. http://disinfectants.defra.gov.uk/DisinfectantsExternal/Default.aspx?Module=ApprovalsList_SI
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alang

  • Joined Nov 2017
  • Morayshire
Re: Which disinfectants?
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2019, 02:25:43 pm »
The only time I would use Virkon (which is expensive) is if a specific pathogen or high risk has been identified

Got a few 50g sachets from work so that's why i used it
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Possum

  • Joined Feb 2012
  • Somerset
Re: Which disinfectants?
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2019, 06:57:51 pm »
Ah! Lucky you  :) . It is a very good disinfectant, so you won't go far wrong.


I think Scarlet Dragon and I must have had a similar misspent youth. I also love the smell of Jeyes fluid :innocent:

arobwk

  • Joined Nov 2015
  • Kernow - some say it's in England !
Re: Which disinfectants?
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2019, 10:38:30 pm »
If you need something more specialist then the Defra website shows lists of what should be used for specific disease control depending on the location. http://disinfectants.defra.gov.uk/DisinfectantsExternal/Default.aspx?Module=ApprovalsList_SI

Useful link @Scarlet.Dragon:  certainly a very comprehensive list.

My own needs relate mostly to cutting-equipment disinfection and for that purpose I use isopropyl alchohol or Citrox or a good scrub with soap and water.  For surfaces, Citrox (available for dilution as Citrox or, in higher concentration, as Citrox P) is an alternative to nasty Jeyes for cleaning surfaces/greenhouses etc:  however, again, a good scrub of surfaces with soap and water should not be dismissed.   A dilution of Citrox is also good for "cleaning" plant cuttings and keeping static/circulated water supplies "clean".

And, as you might guess from the name Citrox, it is derived from citrus fruit (somehow or another) and may be used in "organic" systems. 

Plus I've just come across an article about Citrox as a mouth-wash which I believe goes under the brand name of Curaprox !!!  Whether the mouthwash has exactly the same makeup as horticultural Citrox is beyond me:  to note the article refers to its 99.9998% microbial effectiveness.

Here's a link to that article if you're interested: https://www.dentalreview.news/dentistry/19-dental-health-hygiene/4116-new-and-natural-oral-healthcare-citrox
« Last Edit: November 11, 2019, 04:58:53 pm by arobwk »

Scarlet.Dragon

  • Joined May 2015
  • Aberdeenshire
Re: Which disinfectants?
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2019, 09:07:19 pm »
Interesting on the citrox... I recall some research on flossing, interdental brushes and mouthwash a few years ago that "proved" that it was the action of swishing around your mouth that helped the cleaning rather than the product used.  Can't recall exactly what was tested but think it was expensive brand products, vinegar or lemon juice in water, salt water and coconut water - something like that anyway...

I'm curious as to why you have Jeyes marked as "nasty"?  My memories of it were predominantly in use around stables.  I'm aware it's harmful to aquatic and cats so can imagine it is probably not as environmentally friendly as the organic options. 

Around the house, I tend to use either Ecover, Ecoleaf, Bio and Earth Friendly brand products.  None of these list citrox as an ingredient but all are citrus based with "plant based surfactants" so I'm guessing there's a strong chance that they're a similar makeup.

The barn and field shelters are mostly deep littered so the disinfectant is only used once every couple of years when there's a "deep clean" done.  I'm always amazed by how clean the rubber mats under the deep litter are once the bedding is lifted.  I can only think that the ammonia from the deep litter keeps them clean.  However, as they are drain through mats, I do like to give them a disinfectant after they've been power washed just to be thorough in the cleaning. 

The main "disinfection" is done of a separate area of the barn used for kidding... and that gets scrubbed to within an inch of its life before kidding begins... usually twice 3 weeks apart in case I missed anything first time around.  It also gets scrubbed again to remove any blood and fluids post kidding once the new mum moves to a new pen, and of course once the youngsters move out to the field shelter or barn it all gets cleaned down again.
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arobwk

  • Joined Nov 2015
  • Kernow - some say it's in England !
Re: Which disinfectants?
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2019, 04:13:39 pm »
@Scarlet.Dragon   I'm sure there are plenty of articles ont web about Jeyes - here's just one of them
https://www.bridgebiotechnology.com/jeyes-fluid-5-important-reasons-why-not-to-use-this-product/

Horti' Citrox is an Agralan product   https://www.agralan.co.uk/
[I'm just a user & have no connection with Agralan]
« Last Edit: November 12, 2019, 04:46:22 pm by arobwk »

arobwk

  • Joined Nov 2015
  • Kernow - some say it's in England !
Re: Which disinfectants?
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2019, 06:09:42 pm »

twizzel

  • Joined Apr 2012
Re: Which disinfectants?
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2019, 10:50:24 pm »
Total Farm Disinfectant here which is Downland’s version of Fam30. Used for foot dips, trailer wash downs, and sheep/cattle housing/handling equipment cleaning.

alang

  • Joined Nov 2017
  • Morayshire
Re: Which disinfectants?
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2019, 06:20:54 pm »
Never heard of either of those (Downlands or Fam30). Shall have to have a look around at them.
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