thanks for replying, yes both teats are letting milk through, have seen him suckle but for very short periods, as you say it may not want large amounts?. did spray with antiseptic, and a farmer called to give a mollasis based boost to him, I'm going to keep a close eye on him today but feel I'm intervening too much by putting him to the udder, hopefully he's feeding while I'm not there, reassuring to know they don't bounce around for a few days, Diolch