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Belladonna01

  • Joined Aug 2017
  • Swansea
NEW KID
« on: April 15, 2019, 09:10:54 am »
 Being a first timer  a little advice would be appreciated, I had a kid yesterday morning now 24hrs. he is not very enthusiastic to suckle , when i pit him under the udder he can't be bothered to suckle , I have opened his mouth and put the teat in but he doesn't really respond by suckling. he does sometimes suckle if i put him under but then only for a few seconds.  he also spends almost all the time lying down, is this norma? I imagined he would be running round and bouncing .thanks
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Scarlet.Dragon

  • Joined May 2015
  • Aberdeenshire
Re: NEW KID
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2019, 09:32:44 am »
Are you sure there's milk coming out of the teat; have you got the wax plug out?  He really should have had colostrum within a few hours of birth and if he hasn't it will affect his immune system. 

Are you sure he's not feeding when you're not watching him?  Does his stomach feel full or empty?  If empty, you need to get a vet to check him and mum over as it's possible her milk hasn't come in and he's starving to death.

Have you sprayed his cord with iodine to prevent any infection going in?  I'm just checking that the basics have been covered as you say that you're a first timer.

If he's not getting any milk out of the teat, he won't realise that suckling is what's needed.  Sometimes they can be a bit thick and you need to squirt the milk into them until they get the hang of it.

Very young kids don't suckle for long; they have tiny stomachs and so a few "sips" is all they need but many, many times a day; as they grow they suckle for longer but less frequently.  He should be feeding at least every 2 hours at this point.

I would expect him to be up on his feet within about 15 minutes of birth and although they do spend a lot of time sleeping as babies, they do also get up and totter about; bouncing around doesn't normally happen until a few days old.

I hope this helps.

As an aside, most surgeries will let you take the goats in for a check up if you arrange it in advance - that can save on the call out fees.
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bj_cardiff

  • Joined Feb 2017
  • Carmarthenshire
Re: NEW KID
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2019, 10:30:12 am »
When you say lying down - how is he lying? Is he laying flat out on its side in the middle of the pen, or is he curled up against one of the sides? I don't worry too much if they are curled up, but if laying flat out on their sides you need to step in and act fast. Maybe milk some colostrum for them goat and try bottle feeding or you could take the colostrum to a vet and ask them to show you how to stomach tube it in.


Belladonna01

  • Joined Aug 2017
  • Swansea
Re: NEW KID
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2019, 10:36:21 am »
thanks for replying, yes both teats are letting milk through, have seen him suckle  but for very short periods, as you say it may not want large amounts?. did spray with antiseptic, and a farmer called to give a mollasis based boost to him, I'm going to keep a close eye on him today but feel I'm intervening too much by putting him to the udder, hopefully he's feeding while I'm not there, reassuring to know they don't bounce around for a few days, Diolch

Belladonna01

  • Joined Aug 2017
  • Swansea
Re: NEW KID
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2019, 10:38:44 am »
he is lying more like crouching like a cat would seems content and comfortable, but not grasping the teat when i put him to it

pharnorth

  • Joined Nov 2013
  • Cambridgeshire
Re: NEW KID
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2019, 02:17:19 pm »
Some are quite lively at 24hours and some get really drowsy. If he is getting up and suckling for short periods, you know she is producing milk, and she is not walking off or kicking him off, and he looks comfortable, than he is probably ok.  If I am not sure a day old kid is getting enough (the belly should feel like a little hot water bottle after a feed) I would give 30 to 60ml from a bottle or tube it at the end of the day to give it an energy boost and help overnight. Sometimes they can be a bit congested and this makes them reluctant to suck. That is more obvious if you try from a bottle and  it takes a while but you can effectively dribble 30ml plus in that way a few times. 

Belladonna01

  • Joined Aug 2017
  • Swansea
Re: NEW KID
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2019, 08:34:28 pm »
thanks all for your views, he is more percy this afternoon walking more, did suckle a few times with my help , I'm guessing he's feeding when I'm not there

 

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