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northfifeduckling

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what do you do with whey?
« on: September 05, 2011, 02:33:02 pm »
what do you all do with your whey from making cheese? I know you can drink it and it actually tastes refreshing and nice and is healthy (although I'm not a body builder), you can use it instead of water in bread, cook noodles in it or chuck it in the bath - good for the skin....just curious what other uses there might be! :&>

nihicib2

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Re: what do you do with whey?
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2011, 02:44:52 pm »
We feed it to the pigs and when I make sourdough bread we use it instead of water

Brid

egglady

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Re: what do you do with whey?
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2011, 02:55:25 pm »
and i made the yummies scones i've ever made in my life with it Kerstin!

did you make cheese?  what was your verdict?

northfifeduckling

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Re: what do you do with whey?
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2011, 03:03:44 pm »
I like it although it turned out quite dense for a cream cheese, more like ricotta. Maybe I strained it too much. The second was a failed then strained yogurt and much lighter and creamier in taste  :yum: will try some scones soon - do you have a recipe to share or do you just replace the milk?
btw - i'll be round tomorrow probably around 6, not as late as last week - looking forward to a new batch . I'll bring some water bottles  :yum: :&>

ellisr

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Re: what do you do with whey?
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2011, 03:31:23 pm »
My dogs will do back flips for them

SallyintNorth

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Re: what do you do with whey?
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2011, 06:06:08 pm »
Piggy loves whey.  If you have enough of it you can use it to replace some of their cake.  Chickens will also drink it, one of my collies loves it too.  The cattle will also drink it - puts some of the protein back where it came from!

There are some recipes for whey butter and whey cheese, but I haven't tried any of them yet.  I think Dorset Vinny was a whey cheese originally and was said often to turn out 'hard as a bullet' and completely inedible!  ;D

nihicib2, please can you post your recipe for sourdough bread made with whey?  I have made and like soda bread, using buttermilk, but I really love sourdough and (if I don't tell Meg) I have whey I can use... :shhh:  :pig:
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nihicib2

  • Joined Jun 2010
Re: what do you do with whey?
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2011, 09:18:55 pm »
Hi Sally

I'll post it when I get a chance tomorrow do you want the sourdough from scratch, that is, how to make the starter culture or just the bread itself?

Brid

little blue

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Re: what do you do with whey?
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2011, 09:59:42 pm »
I soak the oats/mixed flakes in whey, then feed it to the hens or pigs
Little Blue

Southfields

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Re: what do you do with whey?
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2011, 10:49:58 pm »
anyone with pigs would love the use of the whey you have or make ricotta (very easy to do).

Vicky x

SallyintNorth

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Re: what do you do with whey?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2011, 09:09:23 am »
I'll post it when I get a chance tomorrow do you want the sourdough from scratch, that is, how to make the starter culture or just the bread itself?

Ooh yes, both please.
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nihicib2

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Re: what do you do with whey?
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2011, 02:54:35 pm »
 :goat:  Ok this is from the river cottage everyday book, I used water to make the starter as I didnt know about using whey, Im not sure how the whey would work when adding in into the starter from the very start, but I find it gives the final bread mix a lovely flavour, it does take a little time and patience to make the starter and indeed the bread, but once the starter is made its just a matter of feeding it every few days, the bread is lovely as well, I would recommend a proving basket (or any basket with a tea towel- which the dough will fit in), when I used a plastic bowl and a tea towel I found the dough 'sweated' and stuck to the tea towel when I tried to tip it onto the baking sheet. :(.

The starter is alive so needs to be fed like I said every few days, it can also be 'put to sleep' by placing it in the fridge for a week or so, just re-feed it again, it can be 'put into a coma' by putting it in the freezer and again defrosting it and re-feeding it before use.

you can also give the discarded half of the starter to a friend so they can use it as their own starter, they just have to add the 100g and water to build it up again   :goat:
 
Begin with making the starter. In a large bowl, mix 100g strong bread flour with enough warm water to make a batter, roughly the consistency of thick paint. Beat it well to incorporate some air, then cover with a lid or clingfilm and leave somewhere fairly warm and draught-free.

Check it every few hours until you can see that fermentation has begun – signalled by the appearance of bubbles on the surface. The time it takes for your starter to begin fermenting can vary hugely – it could be a few hours or a few days.

Your starter now needs regular feeding. Begin by whisking in another 100g or so of fresh flour and enough water to retain that thick batter consistency. You can now switch to using cool water, and to keeping the starter at normal room temperature – though nowhere too cold or draughty.

Leave it again, then, 24 hours or so later, scoop out and discard half of the starter and stir in another fresh 100g flour and some more water. Repeat this discard-and-feed routine every day, maintaining the sloppy consistency and keeping your starter at room temperature, and after 7-10 days you should have something that smells good – sweet, fruity, yeasty, rather than harsh or acrid.


It’s now ready to bake with.
The night before you want to bake your loaf, create the sponge: take about 100ml of your active starter, and combine it with 250g fresh flour and 300ml warm water (or whey) in a large bowl. Mix well with your hands, or very thoroughly with the handle of a wooden spoon, then cover with clingfilm and leave overnight. In the morning, it should be clearly fermenting – thick, sticky and bubbly.

 Now make your loaf: add a fresh 300g flour to the sponge, along with 1 tbsp oil, if you like (it will make the bread a touch softer and more silky, but is not essential), and 10g salt (which is essential). Squidge it all together with your hands. You should have a fairly sticky dough. If it seems tight and firm, add a dash more warm water. If it’s unmanageably loose, add more flour (but do leave it as wet as you dare – you’ll get better bread that way). Turn out the dough on to a lightly floured surface and knead until smooth and silky.

This takes in the region of 10 minutes, but it can vary depending on your own style and level of confidence. Put the dough in a lightly oiled bowl and turn it so it gets a light coating of oil. Cover with lightly oiled clingfilm, or put the bowl inside a plastic bag, and leave to rise. Don’t expect it to whoosh up to twice its original size in an hour, as a conventional loaf does. Sourdough rises slowly and sedately. The best thing is to knead it in the morning then simply leave it all day (or knead in the evening and leave overnight) in a fairly cool, but draught-free, place, until it is more or less doubled in size and feels springy when you push your finger gently into it. Knock it back (deflate it) on a lightly floured surface. You now need to prove the dough (i.e. give it a second rising). You are also going to be forming it into the shape it will be for baking. If you have a proper baker’s proving basket, use this, first dusting it generously with flour.

Alternatively, rig up your own proving basket by lining a medium-sized, fairly shallow-sided bowl with a clean tea towel, then dusting it with flour. Place your round of dough inside, cover again with oiled clingfilm or a clean plastic bag and leave to rise, in a warm place this time, until roughly doubled in size. This might be only an hour or it could be three or four. Then the dough is ready to bake.

Preheat the oven to 250˚C/Gas Mark 9 (or at least 220C/gas 7, if that’s your top limit). Have ready, if possible, a clean gardener’s spray bottle full of water – you’ll be using this to create a steamy atmosphere in the oven, which helps the bread to rise and develop a good crust. (You can achieve the same effect with a roasting tin of boiling water placed on the bottom of the oven just before you put the loaf in – but the spray bottle is easier.) About five minutes before you want to put the loaf in the oven, put a baking tray in the oven to heat up.

 Take the hot baking sheet from the oven, dust it with flour, and carefully transfer the risen dough to it by tipping it out of the proving basket/bowl, upside down, on to the sheet. Slash the top of the loaf a few times with a very sharp, serrated knife (or even a razor blade). Put the loaf into the hot oven and give a few squirts from the spray bottle over and around it. After 15 minutes, reduce the heat to 200C/gas 6, give the oven another spray, and bake for a further 25-30 minutes, or until the well-browned loaf vibrates and sounds hollow when you tap its base. Leave to cool completely, on a rack, before you plunge in with the bread knife…

 :goat: Dont be put off by the length of time it takes to make the starter, its only a few minutes each day to discard and top up, and when it actually comes to making the bread I make the sponge the night before, then first thing in the morning I add the flour etc and leave it to rise in the basket, when I come back from work I carefully tip it onto the baking tray and bake the bread, good luck with it, IT IS WORTH IT  ;)

Brid :goat:

SallyintNorth

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Re: what do you do with whey?
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2011, 08:12:37 pm »
I will definitely be having a go at that - not sure when, but I will do it!  Thanks very much for the comprehensive instructions, Brid - I've got it bookmarked.
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