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macgro7

  • Joined Feb 2016
  • Leicester
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #180 on: July 25, 2016, 08:49:13 pm »
That's a nice chicken! And The plucked.
The proper one like that cost £900!!!! A bit too much for me...
Shall I tell you a secret? I usually don't pluck chickens - instead just take the skin off lol
Growing loads of fruits and vegetables! Raising dairy goats, chickens, ducks, rabbits on 1/2 acre in the middle of the city of Leicester, using permaculture methods.

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

  • Joined Oct 2014
  • leeds
  • Bramham flock Wiltshire Horns
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #181 on: July 25, 2016, 09:31:55 pm »
It's not mine either ha
Got to have skin too much flavour to waste ha

I was thinking a from of a washing machine or dryer fixed to a frame and motor
Makes it a lot easier
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macgro7

  • Joined Feb 2016
  • Leicester
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #182 on: July 26, 2016, 10:50:06 am »
Btw that lady I got my dorkings off also has  beautiful Lincolnshire buff chickens.
What do you think about breeding them for meat?
They were originally egg + meat chickens. They are supposed to be fast growing
Growing loads of fruits and vegetables! Raising dairy goats, chickens, ducks, rabbits on 1/2 acre in the middle of the city of Leicester, using permaculture methods.

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

  • Joined Oct 2014
  • leeds
  • Bramham flock Wiltshire Horns
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #183 on: July 26, 2016, 11:11:31 am »
they look lovely birds i take it they derive from buff orpimgtons
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

  • Joined Oct 2014
  • leeds
  • Bramham flock Wiltshire Horns
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #184 on: July 26, 2016, 11:41:23 am »
how did you find the lady i may be interested in getting some lincolnshire buffs
cheers
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macgro7

  • Joined Feb 2016
  • Leicester
Growing loads of fruits and vegetables! Raising dairy goats, chickens, ducks, rabbits on 1/2 acre in the middle of the city of Leicester, using permaculture methods.

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

  • Joined Oct 2014
  • leeds
  • Bramham flock Wiltshire Horns
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #186 on: July 26, 2016, 01:13:29 pm »
thanks
i think im heading down there in october
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macgro7

  • Joined Feb 2016
  • Leicester
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #187 on: July 26, 2016, 01:21:21 pm »
Great. Message her so she keeps some for you.
Growing loads of fruits and vegetables! Raising dairy goats, chickens, ducks, rabbits on 1/2 acre in the middle of the city of Leicester, using permaculture methods.

Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #188 on: July 26, 2016, 01:54:58 pm »
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dissapointed results this week but interesteing none the less average weight gain is over 100g less than the previous 2 weeks

this could have been the weather as there was some real hot days

i am predicting that if i get them gaining over 200g like the previous 2 weeks then i could be culling a 3kg bird at around 17 weeks

i feel that the IG could take a little longer maybe into the 20s

this also may indicate that the weights from the previous 2 weeks could have been growth spurts (a bit like a child has at certain stages of developement)  it will be interesting to see how that goes
and for future projescts to make make sure there is always plenty of feed (they get adlib anyway

shame you cant gat the colour pattern as you would see the patterns forming

Hi, yes very interesting again  :thumbsup: I alway look at your spreadsheet on my laptop to see the colour pattern it makes more sense that way  :thumbsup:

Your 1105 & 1106 are constant proformers and definitely have something special about them.

I think 3kg in 17 weeks might be a big ask but dam right I'm routing for you girl  :fc: :thumbsup:

Like you say they have gone through a growth spurt and being building frame, now they have to put meat on it. Will be an interesting 6 weeks or so coming up.

Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #189 on: July 26, 2016, 01:59:49 pm »
It's not mine either ha
Got to have skin too much flavour to waste ha

I was thinking a from of a washing machine or dryer fixed to a frame and motor
Makes it a lot easier

I sometimes skin if the birds are small and not worth the bother, then just take the breast & legs, also do the same with game.

You can download plans to make a plucker on internet, normally a plastic 45 gal drum with stationary rubber fingers or prongs around the sides and a rotary base with rubber fingers on it.

You can also pick up an attachment that fits into a pistol drill on eBay for about £20.

Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #190 on: July 26, 2016, 02:07:48 pm »
Btw that lady I got my dorkings off also has  beautiful Lincolnshire buff chickens.
What do you think about breeding them for meat?
They were originally egg + meat chickens. They are supposed to be fast growing

I looked into getting some back in March, spoke to the LB society and on there website found 4 or 5 guys with birds for sale, some said they now have a lot of Orpington blood back in them so are not the table bird they once were, also due to a small gene pool the fertility isn't good.
I have contacts for 3 breeders around the Grimsby area if you would like them.

I then went down the Buff rock route, looks like I have 4 cockerels and 1 hen,  :yuck:

Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #191 on: July 26, 2016, 04:36:46 pm »
Got the use of this plucking machine yesterday




To be honest it didn't work as well as I hoped.
Only took the larger feathers off and left about half to pluck by hand.
So still took me 2 hours to pluck 6 birds.  :-[

With the weather cooling a bit I left them to hang and will draw them tonight.
Will let you know the weights when I get finished.
« Last Edit: July 26, 2016, 04:52:55 pm by Dave C »

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

  • Joined Oct 2014
  • leeds
  • Bramham flock Wiltshire Horns
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #192 on: July 26, 2016, 09:24:33 pm »
spread attacthed

dissapointed results this week but interesteing none the less average weight gain is over 100g less than the previous 2 weeks

this could have been the weather as there was some real hot days

i am predicting that if i get them gaining over 200g like the previous 2 weeks then i could be culling a 3kg bird at around 17 weeks

i feel that the IG could take a little longer maybe into the 20s

this also may indicate that the weights from the previous 2 weeks could have been growth spurts (a bit like a child has at certain stages of developement)  it will be interesting to see how that goes
and for future projescts to make make sure there is always plenty of feed (they get adlib anyway

shame you cant gat the colour pattern as you would see the patterns forming

Hi, yes very interesting again  :thumbsup: I alway look at your spreadsheet on my laptop to see the colour pattern it makes more sense that way  :thumbsup:

Your 1105 & 1106 are constant proformers and definitely have something special about them.

I think 3kg in 17 weeks might be a big ask but dam right I'm routing for you girl  :fc: :thumbsup:

Like you say they have gone through a growth spurt and being building frame, now they have to put meat on it. Will be an interesting 6 weeks or so coming up.
Probably a good time to tell you I'm a bloke ha
The princess is my niece ha
Sorry about that
Ye I'm thinking it will be longer I was reading up on the utility LS and males should be reaching 9lb (4kg) and females 7lb (3.1kg) so should really target them regardless of how long it takes
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #193 on: July 26, 2016, 09:51:54 pm »
 :roflanim: :roflanim: :roflanim:
Well What do we call you now then mate   :innocent:

Yeh I had a full size LS which made about 12lb but it took about a year.


Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #194 on: July 26, 2016, 10:10:39 pm »
Well quick round up of my 12 week old Sasso Gallic boys that got the short straw.

Removed food Sunday night, water Monday afternoon.
Used a killing cone for the first time which I found very good and will using them again.
Used my mates old plucking machine which wasn't the best so took about 2 hours to pluck, then hung for 24 hours.

Drew the birds tonight which were very clean with good offal, went well and took under an hour.

Lowest dressed weight 1.89kg
Highest dressed weight 2.12kg

So happy with that, bring on the next batch.



 

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