[acresareace123]

for those who have pet pigs/miniature who die a natural death and not for meat, what are the regulations to dispose of the body?

[robert waddell]

a lot of factors are to be concidered on this one 
is it only one pig you have?
whare do you stay ie farm ,house flat  or what ?
how do you know it died  a natural death?
sorry for all the questions BUT they are relevent as to what the answer will be

[skidley]

Surely pet pig or otherwise a pig is a pig and has to be disposed of via a registered waste like the knackerman. When I disposed of some still born piglets I had paperwork from the crematorium to say that they had been disposed/incinerated and their disposal license no on it.

[robert waddell]

not so

[acresareace123]

its 2, planning for future as theyre still babies and very much our pets to just enjoy life being piggies
farm
hopefully itll be old age but what i should have said perhaps is death via a reason other than for meat or choice

thanks

[oaklandspigs]

Lillian,

Not sure why you think a pet pig is different to a farm pig as to disposal?

Is this different in Scotland to England?, I would doubt this as EC 1774/2002 is pretty clear, and does not allow a derogation by member states.

In England Burial of animals comes under the Animal By-Products Regulations 2005 which implement EC1774/2002.

Part 6 sections 28 of these regulations states :

"28.  In accordance with Article 24(1)(a) of the Community Regulation, dead pet animals may be buried."

The "community regulation" referred to is EC1774/2002.

Article 2 of EC1774/2002 defines a pet animal as "“any animal belonging to species normally nourished and kept, but not consumed, by humans for purposes other than farming;”


The key word here is "normally” and since pigs are normally kept for meat, they cannot be buried, and must be disposed of in accordance with the Animal By-Products regulations, which is via a state approved disposer.

Page 11 of the attached Defra leaflet (which seems to cover Scotland as well) makes this clear.

http://animalhealth.defra.gov.uk/about/publications/advice-guidance/documents/pet_pigs.pdf

[robert waddell]

well this appears as being a hypothetical question as it appears the pig has not yet died
also they should reference the regulations that you have quoted
you can bury a great Dane and a Clydesdale  even if it is in a shallow grave(but how the Chinese and the germans treat this with there cultures)

[acresareace123]

thanks all, seems a grey area then

as they are pets and a breed not normally kept for meat in this country, i shall be going that route i think

thanks again

[oaklandspigs]

acresareace123

The key word is species not breed, pigs as a species are normally kept for meat, therefore they are not pets under the definition.  Sorry, it is not a grey area, and burial is contrary to law.

Lillian,

Gerat dane - yes no problem is a pet.  Clydesdales are a horse, and Defra have asked local authorites to allow them as pets for the moment, even though in the EU they are considered as a species normally eaten !  Defra were trying to clarify this in the latest legislation with the EU, haven't looked lately to see if this has an outcome yet !

[little blue]

Oaklands is, as usual, spot on.
A pig is a pig & needs to be "taken for disposal" whether still-born, ill or very very old.... In England at least.

Acres - if one of your pigs dies then contact Animal Health before the knackers, they'll advise...

[shetlandpaul]

A fully grown pig would take some burial by hand. if you could even move it. Just think a human sized hole appears in your back garden. The best option would be to crem it and then bury the ashes.

[Hilarysmum]

I understand the reason for the rules for disposal of a carcass pet or otherwise BUT why is it that when an article on facebook with attached photo of a pig eating sausages (hopefully not pork) is passed to the relevant authorities they are too busy or unconcerned to follow this up (and many more horror stories) and yet are so on the ball regarding disposal of same.

just curious ....

[oaklandspigs]

[Cynical mode on]

Gives AH a chance to be like CSI - they can dig up the pig and get all forsenic

Proving a picture shows who did what to who is much more difficult.

[Cynical mode off]

[belgianblue]

national fallen stock company, they will be able to help with your problem of the dead pig in question, you be able to find them on the internet, there be telephone numbers for different areas.

[Mrs pig]

I agree with Oaklands here:

A pig is definatley a "livestock animal" even if you term it as a pet!  it must not be burried!!  It can be  bagged up (like you would with sheep) and taken to a certifried incineration point.  Or the knacker man or fallen stock person will take it.  If you are worried you can become a member of the fallen stock scheme for not much money and they will take them away for you when they go.