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Penninehillbilly

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • West Yorks
Is this Orf?
« on: August 25, 2021, 12:39:13 am »
24hrs before, this was just a small pale 'wart' in tne corner of her mouth, she isnt eating very well, and has been quite lethargic,  had her inside and eating willow, but she hasn't touched chopped grass in a bucket, eating tup and lamb mix. She seemed brighter and pickingup so turned her out with her mum, then today saw this.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2021, 12:45:03 am by Penninehillbilly »

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Is this Orf?
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2021, 01:56:22 am »
Yup, that's orf. 
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

Penninehillbilly

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • West Yorks
Re: Is this Orf?
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2021, 03:08:39 am »
 :(
Thanks Sally.
Any advice?
Ive read that pain will stop her eating, can we give pain relief?
Anything I can put on it?
I realise it's a virus, so no ABs unless secondary infection, but how do I know if she does need anything?
Tempted to bring her back inside, but she will only eat willow, I brought her mum up to the little field, but twin got left behind, too busy playing with other lambs.(13wk old)

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Is this Orf?
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2021, 03:20:58 am »
So far that is unlikely to stop her eating.  Being separated from the others is more likely to make it go off its feed! 

Give it a wash (our vet recommended a strong solution of Daz - not Ariel or Bold, gotta be Daz - and I found that as good as using purple or blue spray.  Blue spray not much use unless it's infected anyway, as you point out.) 

There is orf about on your land, clearly, so the best things you can do now are:

- keep the lambs away from anywhere that has thorns or thistles or anything that will pierce skim : that's how it gets in
- watch ewes with orfy lambs, and look for signs that any lambs are hungry and pestering a ewe, because orf can spread to - and from - the udder, and if the lambs are sucking hard because she doesn't have much milk, that can break the skin on the teats.  Feed ewes if the lambs are pestering them, to reduce the risk of broken skin and orf
- consider vaccinating all your lambs.  Scabivax is a live vaccine, easy to apply (but do read the instructions and follow them), very effective.  Because it is a live vaccine, you shouldn't use it unless you are sure you have orf on your land - but you clearly do so it is an option for you.
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Is this Orf?
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2021, 03:23:34 am »
And the usual warnings about it being highly contagious, to humans as well, can be carried on clothes, and can cause truly nasty infections in some humans.  (Especially if getting in near a joint, apparently.)

Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

Penninehillbilly

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • West Yorks
Re: Is this Orf?
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2021, 12:02:09 pm »
Thanks Sally, got some Daz, should I use cotton wool? How strong a solution?
Problem with sheep is I let them into the woodland back in April, there is lots of good grass, but  lots of thistles, not as much grass in their small field now. Looks like I'd better get on with sorting those thistles, been meaning to for years, but this is the first year the sheep have been in.
Previously found her a few times just curled up away from the others, which was why she was inside anyway, so I think something else going on, wormed her, seems she's up and about more now.
 

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Is this Orf?
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2021, 01:25:47 pm »
I make it up really strong, so it's blue and feels slippery, and then either dunk their nose momentarily or slosh the solution very liberally over the infected part or parts.  Leave a few moments and repeat to make sure some stays on after the first slosh / dunk washed any loose dirt and / or crust away.

Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

Penninehillbilly

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • West Yorks
Re: Is this Orf?
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2021, 07:54:43 pm »
Thanks Sally, she got through the fence today, had to catch her to get her back, feels to putting weight on already.

Bywaters

  • Joined Apr 2016
Re: Is this Orf?
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2021, 04:09:52 pm »
We have had good results with "Frobut" tubbies. Basically a vitamen bucket lick/nibble

Denis Brinicombe down Devon way

 

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