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wannabesmallholder

  • Joined Jan 2017
Can you sex these orpingtons?
« on: June 10, 2018, 08:22:39 pm »
Anyone care to take a guess at the sex of these 18 week orpingtons? There are 3 in total. None are crowing, but one or two have become a bit more aggressive recently. I know orps are slower to develop so wondered if we have one or more cockerels.

« Last Edit: June 10, 2018, 08:43:40 pm by wannabesmallholder »

landroverroy

  • Joined Oct 2010
Re: Can you sex these orpingtons?
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2018, 08:30:58 pm »
Both hens - small comb and wattle and no sickle feathers round the tail.
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wannabesmallholder

  • Joined Jan 2017
Re: Can you sex these orpingtons?
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2018, 08:42:49 pm »
Ok thank you. It’s 3 separate ones and it was one of the gold laced ones that’s become particularly aggressive (and problematic with the other breeds in the flock).

Perris

  • Joined Mar 2017
  • Gower
Re: Can you sex these orpingtons?
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2018, 06:44:20 am »
I'd guess that's a hen too, but certainty will come only when they either lay or crow!

chrismahon

  • Joined Dec 2011
  • Gascony, France
Re: Can you sex these orpingtons?
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2018, 07:11:30 am »
Our Orpingtons began to sex at 18 weeks but two were as late as 26 weeks. She went to bed as a hen and the next morning…..!

wannabesmallholder

  • Joined Jan 2017
Re: Can you sex these orpingtons?
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2018, 09:19:01 am »
Thanks [member=23925]chrismahon[/member] I want to sell 2 of them, so I guess will have to wait a bit longer before I can sell them as hens!!

in the hills

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: Can you sex these orpingtons?
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2018, 09:49:27 am »
I would have suspicions that the second one could be a cockerel.

landroverroy

  • Joined Oct 2010
Re: Can you sex these orpingtons?
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2018, 11:25:55 am »
I would have suspicions that the second one could be a cockerel.


I agree the second one is less clear than the first, but I would still say it's definitely a hen. On first sight it's a nice compact dumpy shape, whereas cockerels at that age are a lot more leggy.


But even more defining (as stated) is the absence of sickle feathers round the tail. They would certainly be visible now if this was a male bird.
 
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wannabesmallholder

  • Joined Jan 2017
Re: Can you sex these orpingtons?
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2018, 11:31:43 am »
I would have suspicions that the second one could be a cockerel.

It’s the second one that i am suspicious of behaviour-wise too!

[member=6533]landroverroy[/member] would the cockerel features still be obvious at these age even in orps, as I know they are slower to show?

in the hills

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: Can you sex these orpingtons?
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2018, 04:00:26 pm »
My daughter thought three hens. She thinks the overall shape is more hen like.


A neighbour found this breed difficult to sex.


Only sure way is to wait and see!

landroverroy

  • Joined Oct 2010
Re: Can you sex these orpingtons?
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2018, 04:10:50 pm »
My daughter thought three hens. She thinks the overall shape is more hen like.


A neighbour found this breed difficult to sex.


Only sure way is to wait and see!


 Hmm . . . first impression - definitely 3 hens. But then the more I look closely, the more a slight element of doubt creeps in for the second 2. :thinking: 
I have had Buff Orpingtons that I had my doubts with at the same age as these; but my birds were much more leggy, not the compact feminine shape of these, and mine did turn out to be male.

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in the hills

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: Can you sex these orpingtons?
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2018, 04:25:02 pm »
I thought that the third was possibly a cockerel on first sight too!


Mmmmm, you'll have to let us know Wannabesmallholder!

wannabesmallholder

  • Joined Jan 2017
Re: Can you sex these orpingtons?
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2018, 10:27:12 pm »
Err, well one of them laid an egg this morning, so at least I know there's one hen!! Wasn't expecting that so early!

in the hills

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: Can you sex these orpingtons?
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2018, 10:59:10 pm »
 :thumbsup:


Let's hope there are 3 tomorrow!

roddycm

  • Joined Jul 2013
Re: Can you sex these orpingtons?
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2018, 12:51:05 am »
I'd say hens! :)

 

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