The beauty of the treeless saddle is that you buy it to fit you not the horse - because it has no rigid frame, it fits any horse. Good if you have more than one horse, unless you ride them two at a time. Thery're also very comfortable for the rider and, I think, the horse. It's a bit like a thick bareback pad and you do feel very close to your horse. Mine's nubuck so you don't slide around. I had a ride on a friend's horse on a "normal" saddle and it was just horrible, hard and slippy.