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Treudnamara

  • Joined Oct 2013
Deer problems
« on: July 04, 2016, 11:28:51 am »
A couple of deer seem to be wanting to eat all our fairly young trees. Many have tree guards or are in exclosures but the larch for instance are very vulnerable. Any suggestions apart from deer fencing around our entire perimeter, which is currently unaffordable ?

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Deer problems
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2016, 12:16:43 pm »
I knew someone used to get lion poo from Longleat and hang bags of it off the fencing around her young orchard - she reckoned it did work.  Whether the deer became habituated to it, and started to come back, I don't know - I moved away and didn't keep in contact.

Otherwise, can you have a dog that can roam around the area?
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waterbuffalofarmer

  • Joined Apr 2014
  • Mid Wales
  • Owner of 61 Mediterranean water buffaloes
Re: Deer problems
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2016, 01:27:27 pm »
alternatively you could set up a venison business :innocent:
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NethertonSH

  • Joined May 2015
    • Netherton Smallholding
Re: Deer problems
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2016, 02:28:30 pm »
Where are you based? I'm sure there would be someone close by more than willing to take care of them for you. Providing they're in season of course.

NethertonSH

  • Joined May 2015
    • Netherton Smallholding
Re: Deer problems
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2016, 10:01:59 pm »
Hmm can't agree with that one I'm afraid. I know they'll be half joking but seasons are there for a reason.

Steph Hen

  • Joined Jul 2013
  • Angus Scotland.
Re: Deer problems
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2016, 08:02:05 am »
I think if deer are causing damage there is an exception clause that says that those marauding deer can be shot in any season - look it up, if it's just one or two damaging your trees then I think a pest controller is allowed to shoot them.

Penninehillbilly

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • West Yorks
Re: Deer problems
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2016, 10:51:00 am »
I'd hate the thought of having shot a hind and her youngster dying of starvation :-(.
Different laws in Scotland, Google 'deer cull season'. Some useful advice.

NethertonSH

  • Joined May 2015
    • Netherton Smallholding
Re: Deer problems
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2016, 01:37:07 pm »
I think if deer are causing damage there is an exception clause that says that those marauding deer can be shot in any season - look it up, if it's just one or two damaging your trees then I think a pest controller is allowed to shoot them.
To shoot deer out of season (in Scotland) you need authorisation from SNH. You can get an out of season licence to shoot stags easy enough but you would very rarely (if ever) be given authorisation to shoot females out of season due to the welfare issues. To get out an out of season licence you have to show that you have tried everything else possible to control the deer during the open season. A night shooting authorisation (in season) would be more common place in controlling numbers first. 

But to be honest a couple marauding (roe?) deer isn't a deer problem. Try managing a 1000 acres of newly planted commercial woodland that is unfenced and has large herds of red and sika moving through daily.   

oor wullie

  • Joined Jun 2012
  • Strathnairn
Re: Deer problems
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2016, 12:03:51 pm »
I am pretty sure that you don't need to actually apply for a license to shoot males out if season as it is covered by the SNH general license, although as stated you have to exhaust other options first.
There is a short period out if season where the general license covers females too but for the key part of the breeding season they are strictly off limits.

A couple of roe might not make an impact on a thousand acres but they can decimate a small area.

Womble

  • Joined Mar 2009
  • Stirlingshire, Central Scotland
Re: Deer problems
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2016, 12:45:58 pm »
How about running some electric tape around them. I'm sure the deer would soon learn?
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