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scremmit

  • Joined Feb 2016
  • Shropshire
Sheeps poorly mouth
« on: June 18, 2016, 12:14:10 pm »
Hi team...

We noticed a little fresh blood on one of our lambs chin so we had a look and found this... It's not his tongue, but a swelling between the bottom teeth and the inside of the bottom lip.

It's swollen enough to draw blood while he's nibbling on grass.

Anybody who has read previous posts will know we're newbies so be nice if this is a stupid question... But does anybody know what this is and what we do next?

The rest of our little flock - 5 ewes and 5 lambs are fine.

This one seems a little less sprightly than the rest, but not massively so.


fsmnutter

  • Joined Oct 2012
  • Fettercairn, Aberdeenshire
Re: Sheeps poorly mouth
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2016, 02:09:53 pm »
Vet.
It's hard to tell from a photograph, but if it's bleeding every time he eats grass, its probably also stopping him suckling, and he will lose condition rapidly if he can't eat.
As just one lamb, it may just be an injury to him alone but there are contagious diseases such as orf or (God forbid!) foot and mouth that can cause mouth lesions so should really get it checked out.

Marches Farmer

  • Joined Dec 2012
  • Herefordshire
Re: Sheeps poorly mouth
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2016, 04:25:48 pm »
How long have you had these sheep and did they come from the eastern side of the UK?     .....Bluetongue?

shep53

  • Joined Jan 2011
  • Dumfries & Galloway
Re: Sheeps poorly mouth
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2016, 06:20:19 pm »
VET

Penninehillbilly

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • West Yorks
Re: Sheeps poorly mouth
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2016, 06:33:15 pm »
Sorry cant advise, but definitely not a stupid question, looks horrendous. poor little fella.

waterbuffalofarmer

  • Joined Apr 2014
  • Mid Wales
  • Owner of 61 Mediterranean water buffaloes
Re: Sheeps poorly mouth
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2016, 06:51:53 pm »
Yes agree with others it would be good to consult the vet, he may have picked up an infection. Is it his tongue or lip which is giving him pain? Because I think you said lip?  My guess is that he has cut himself and it has gotten infected, vet is the best option, for AB's and Anti inflamatories. All the best and let us know how he gets on :thumbsup:
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scremmit

  • Joined Feb 2016
  • Shropshire
Re: Sheeps poorly mouth
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2016, 09:17:07 pm »
Update!

Just had our sheep farming friend around who managed to herd our sheep into the corner of the field in about ten seconds flat and picked them out one by one and examined them all. Amazing! It took us 15 minutes to catch that lamb!

It's an infection, probably orf, and gave us a can of (forget the name but it's blue!) to spray on it.

We'll keep it sprayed and keep an eye on it and if it doesn't get better with the spray, we'll take to the vets next week.

Further to our previous post - our five ewes with a ewe lamb apiece has turned out to be one ewe lamb, four males - two castrated, two uncastrated.

Fun fun fun!

It was good watching how they were herded into a corner and looked over in fine detail... We'll try it for ourselves tomorrow for a respray!

Next lesson will be trimming feet!


Anke

  • Joined Dec 2009
  • St Boswells, Scottish Borders
Re: Sheeps poorly mouth
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2016, 09:23:40 pm »
Advice re trimming feet is only to do it if/when the animal is lame... otherwise leave well alone. Of course if you are showing your sheep foot trimming e essential, bit I haven't touched my girls' feet for well over a year now...

Womble

  • Joined Mar 2009
  • Stirlingshire, Central Scotland
Re: Sheeps poorly mouth
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2016, 09:49:29 pm »
Ouch - that looks really nasty!  I'll be honest, I'd be getting a second opinion from the vet, either by taking the lamb down there, or by sending a few photos by Email.

Just be aware that if it's orf, you can get it too, so you want to be wearing surgical gloves until this clears up.
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Old Shep

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • North Yorkshire
Re: Sheeps poorly mouth
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2016, 10:14:06 pm »
Sorry but I would still say vet.  Spraying terramycin in the mouth - is that OK?  Just a warning - there are a lot of amateur vets around! Best off with the real thing :-)


Edited to add I'm no expert - we've lambed 50-80 ewes over the last 5 years and never seen anything like this.


Helen - (used to be just Shep).  Gordon Setters, Border Collies and chief lambing assistant to BigBennyShep.

kanisha

  • Joined Dec 2007
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Re: Sheeps poorly mouth
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2016, 11:10:40 pm »
Would have to agree with the above looks very nasty worth getting a vets opinion.
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Hellybee

  • Joined Feb 2010
    • www.blaengwawrponies.co.uk
Re: Sheeps poorly mouth
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2016, 12:21:52 am »
Only seen orf on outside of mouth, that looks swollen and cut somehow to me I dunno?  I also agree vets, rather odd?

Slimjim

  • Joined Apr 2013
  • North Devon
Re: Sheeps poorly mouth
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2016, 07:55:29 am »
I don't buy the Orf diagnosis either. Looks very fleshy and I have never seen it inside the mouth. The consensus on here is talk and/or take to the vet.

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Sheeps poorly mouth
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2016, 10:25:44 am »
I have seen orf inside the mouth, but not without external lesions too.

However, I do think a vet should see it.  You can usually take a lamb to the vet, to save the callout fee.
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shep53

  • Joined Jan 2011
  • Dumfries & Galloway
Re: Sheeps poorly mouth
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2016, 01:40:18 pm »
I really am sorry that you have been screwed by this farmer  ( no tags  not ewe lambs    and not even castrated males )    MOST farmers would have supplied what you asked ,for so I apologise for all of us .          And I  still say VET  as all I can see is a tumor on the bottom pad

 

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