Author Topic: Porta cabins (Read 3559 times)

Loraine · « **on:** November 09, 2015, 09:21:44 am »

Hello
Does anyone know the rules re Porta cabins.
I need one for storage of tools horse tack etc.
We're in the process of buying land (hopefully). We intend to submit a 28 day notice for a barn but we need somewhere to store stuff in the mean time.
Are there any restrictions on size etc and will it be classed as a temporary structure?
Thanking you all in anticipation of your help.
L.

john and helen · « **Reply #1 on:** November 09, 2015, 09:39:46 am »

we put a rented shipping container on…. this was for storing tools and somewhere to make a cuppa, had no problems at all..

i will be surprised if you get the 28 day permitted for anything horsey….the 28 day PD is for agriculture only,

Loraine · « **Reply #2 on:** November 09, 2015, 10:00:23 am »

Thank you that's helpful
L.

Red · « **Reply #3 on:** November 17, 2015, 09:24:49 pm »

we had 2 shipping containers and got 28 day permission to build an agricultural barn, when the barn was built we were asked / told to remove the containers or put them inside the shed as the posh neighbours had complained to the council. if your not on site make sure they are very secure!

Tudful Tamworths · « **Reply #4 on:** November 18, 2015, 11:56:04 pm »

Portakabins (trade name) or similar buildings are, by nature, temporary structures, designed to be moved. I've used one as a fridge and freezer storage/office space for several years. We applied for planning, but were told we didn't need it. HOWEVER, some local authorities are more nitpicky than others.

mart6 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 19, 2015, 08:00:09 pm »

Think you will find you have to justify the need for a barn under the 28 day rule.
It is for agricutral uses only, and wont apply to horse related use which will need full planning permission
Mention anything Horse related and its full planning permisson

PS there are a number of cases where people have made false statements to bypass the rules which is a criminal offence and if proven ends up with the building having to be taken down

There are a few cases of councils putting enforcement notices on storage containers that are for horse related sites
when they go to appeal the planning inspector often sides with the council saying its not agricutral and they have to be removed. Some councils are very heavy handed

Becareful and good luck

kris · « **Reply #6 on:** November 20, 2015, 10:23:13 pm »

interesting post ive had first hand experience with this a 28 day notice do not mention horses agri use only also you need a minimum number of acreage off the top of my head its 10 acres buy a few sheep or a cow and calf gets round that issue if you have more horses than livestock it becomes a change of use issue if the council picks up on it keep the building under 5000sq feet
temerory storage good and bad bits i have containers and have been moaned about it but council i was told if its a feed store for agri purpose not much they can do about it
try keep them green on color if you can blend them in it helps i know my insurance will not cover my tools in less in a shipping container with double locks on it

mart6 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 21, 2015, 08:17:29 am »

Believe its 12.5 acres - 5 hecters
Agree re above points keep some other livestock to justify the need .
Do not mention horses.

Have a ongoing enforcement appeal going on at momment its been going on 14 months, and i did quite a lot of research read over 2000 planning and enforcement appeals and horse related stuff nearly always needs planning unless its grazing on agri land.
You even need planning permission to feed horses on agricultral land if the council push it, because horses are not classed as livestock