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namethatsheep

  • Joined Jul 2015
Soay prices
« on: August 29, 2015, 09:42:22 pm »
I know one can't buck the market but Soay lambs must be worth more than £3-4.

At the Lanark sale today (29 August) prices were:

1 Ewe with twins @  £28
1 Ewe with single lamb @ £28
8 Ewes @ £10-£17
7 Wedders @ £12
3 Tups £8, £13, £26 ( top price for really good specimen)
12 Tup lambs @ £3
28 ewe lambs @ £4-£10.50

They seem just too cheap

Borerays:
Ewes up to £95
Ewes with lamb up to £80
Tup lambs to £80
Ewe lambs To £115
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lintmill

  • Joined Sep 2011
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Re: Soay prices
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2015, 09:55:34 pm »
none of the soays were registered, maybe that is why?

Fleecewife

  • Joined May 2010
  • South Lanarkshire
    • Wester Gladstone Hebridean Sheep
Re: Soay prices
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2015, 11:09:38 pm »
We bought our first (unreg) Soay from Lanark mart about the turn of the century. They were sold in pens - we bought a pen of 4 for £8.  Someone then pleaded with us to let her buy a certain one from us, for which she paid £5.  So our first Soay cost £1 each, including a tup lamb. Nothing changes!

As Lintmill suggests, registered Soay do fetch more, certainly when bought direct from the breeder.

It's not acceptable to pay so little for an animal's life, is it  :(

I hate seeing the butchers bidding, but it apparently 'puts a bottom in the market'.
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Coximus

  • Joined Aug 2014
Re: Soay prices
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2015, 09:49:53 am »
I've seen pens of soay and Hebridean go for 10 a life for meat and Ive seen soay lambs go for #5 every year - too small for many meat buyers and anyone who isnt familiar with them wont want to know, they're just too small.


kelly58

  • Joined Mar 2013
  • Highlands, Scotland
  • Home is were my animals are.
Re: Soay prices
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2015, 10:31:54 am »
Thats sad  :-\  :sheep:

Fleecewife

  • Joined May 2010
  • South Lanarkshire
    • Wester Gladstone Hebridean Sheep
Re: Soay prices
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2015, 11:33:39 am »
Really Soay ram lambs are way too small to sell.  Very few folk have room to take on animals which will need another couple of years to grow big enough for slaughter.  In fact, their carcases at 28 months are not much smaller than Hebs and Shetlands, especially the gigot - quite an acceptable size for a family meal, and an amazing taste.
Maybe breeders should take responsibility for their Soay lambs and not send them through a mart when they are so young and tiny.  Why produce them if they're considered as rubbish?  It's the breeders who should think in advance what will happen to these lambs, and if they have restricted space, only breed their Soays every third year.
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kanisha

  • Joined Dec 2007
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Re: Soay prices
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2015, 11:46:47 am »
If its necessary to breed at all. No reason why you can't keep all male ram flocks or a wether in with some ewes.
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Coximus

  • Joined Aug 2014
Re: Soay prices
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2015, 09:57:31 am »
To be fair, if they need to breed to keep the flock paying for itself - they should consider xbreeding - a texel x hebridean ram would be more than able to give a 1/4 texel 1/4 heb 1/2 soay lamb that gets a good size at 9-12 months, and having sold a few in the ring, they fetched #1.40/kg not great as they were a bad grade, but they were 39kg off grass at 11 months, and #55 is not bad for one. The soays lambed without difficulty and the 4 of them all had twins, so no issue their.

Scarlet.Dragon

  • Joined May 2015
  • Aberdeenshire
Re: Soay prices
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2015, 02:42:23 pm »
They didn't fare any better at Thainstone the following week.

Soay Balwen cross ewe 2013 with lamb 15
Soay Balwen cross hogg with Soay Balwen lamb 15
2 Soay Balwen Cross females (2014), Balwen Ewe Lamb 18 (not sold)
Soay  Ewe lambs 20 (not sold)
Soay wedder 15
Soay 3 crop, Soay female 2014 & Soay ewe lamb 25 (not sure if that was each or total)
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shygirl

  • Joined May 2013
Re: Soay prices
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2015, 02:52:07 pm »
I think the livestock should be registered if it is sold as a rare breed. I personally think thainstone rare breed mart is often a dumping ground for the poor quality stock you cant sell privately. most good breeders have a waiting list for good quality registered stock and don't need to put through the mart, the best ones sold at home. by the time you have paid commission, fuel and considered your time, its maybe better to put them in the freezer or give them away. They only have a limited breeding future with no papers so they arent being sold to preserve the breed either.
normal stock sales are different.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2015, 02:55:00 pm by shygirl »

harmony

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: Soay prices
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2015, 02:55:15 pm »
Generally sheep prices are down everywhere. Commercial as well. I was at Melton Rare Breed Show and sale at the weekend. Not many buyers and lots of stock unsold and taken home.

Scarlet.Dragon

  • Joined May 2015
  • Aberdeenshire
Re: Soay prices
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2015, 03:56:13 pm »
I have to tend to agree with you Shygirl!  I think point to point sales between owners are a far more humane and sensible option whenever practical.

Having spent the day at both Lanark and Thainstone rare breed sales recently, (it's a day out), I have to say the Hebrideans at Lanark were nice quality, so were some of the other breeds including the Castlemilk Moorits, North Ronaldsays, Soays and Borerays.  A couple of the country parks (Heads of Ayr and Palacerigg) were downsizing their stockholding across a variety of breeds so there were some good bloodlines for sale.

I was disappointed with quite a lot of the stock I saw at Thainstone, including some very severely lame animals, although there were a few nice sheep there, including the Shetlands and Black Welsh Mountains.  Some of the "prizewinners" were a bit shocking, and I could only conclude that there may have been very few entries in some of the classes.

I was really disappointed with the 'management' at Lanark, and won't be going back there - despite there being some nice stock on sale!!!   Thainstone, by comparison, was well organised, and ran smoothly.
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