Author Topic: Vet fees  (Read 11893 times)

Porterlauren

  • Joined Apr 2014
Re: Vet fees
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2015, 10:54:03 am »
Its funny the amount of variation in vets fees, and its also quite amusing how some people see value in things.

My vet will call out for 20 odd quid, if its in hours, and have a quick look for me, he will even stop by on a 'passing visit' just to drop off some meds etc. Most of the routine work I can do myself, and then just drop the samples etc into the vets, or go pick up meds and administer them myself.

Ive never had a vet out to lamb a sheep (touch wood), but if it was going to cost something like £140 an hour, and may take a couple of hours, then I have to admit, the sheep would probably be shot instead. It may sound cruel, but in a commercial world, its just not viable.

It always amuses me when someone justifies one excessive thing, by comparing it against another excessive thing. I.E well my rip off plummer charges 140 an hour, so its ok for my vet to rip me off to! Or when people equate high prices with high standards.

I take my running dogs to the best running dog vet in the country, and it costs less to see him or get work done, than many of the run of the mill small animal practices around!

gillsta

  • Joined Apr 2011
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Re: Vet fees
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2015, 11:17:16 am »
Vets can be very expensive however its like anything else the owner of the practice usually benefits from the profits and the vets working for them are not on a very good income.  Fortunately I have excellent vets all very encouraging and helpful. Its the price per minute that is disturbing and then drugs etc on top.

Good farriers are very hard to come by, again I am very lucky to have an excellent one.

As for plumbers if thats what you have paid well the plumber will be laughing all the way to the bank. In my field of work I deal with tradesmen daily and have never ever paid a rate like that.
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harmony

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: Vet fees
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2015, 11:22:01 am »
You have a good working relationship with your vet PL and you are capable of doing much yourself. I don't find myself needing the vet that often and I can't say I have ever had a bill I have thought was expensive for the work done. Your point about being realistic as to whether you get a vet at all is a good one and that is individual choice. Everyone is different and what some see as reasonable others don't. The choice is theirs.


Our vet has at least a 30 minute drive to get here. That's an hour to and from before he has done anything. Farm visits are time consuming compared to visiting animals.


sabrina

  • Joined Nov 2008
Re: Vet fees
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2015, 03:18:02 pm »
I have been with the same vets for years. they can be expensive for some things but when I need them they are here morning ,noon and night. Would not be without them.

mowhaugh

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Re: Vet fees
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2015, 05:18:03 pm »
My vets are £90/hr, plus VAT, so £108.  But coming to the farm, there would be callout onto of that.  I only know the exact hourly price because we recently went to the vets for a review of our flock health plan and it was priced per hour.  I think when on farm, they charge in 15 minute units.  I, like anyone else, like a good whinge when the vet bill comes, but I wouldn'y change them.

Kimbo

  • Joined Feb 2015
  • Anglezarke, Lancashire
Re: Vet fees
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2015, 05:43:05 pm »
I would and have changed our equine vets purely because of charging. Not just the rates they charged but the way they immediately ordered test after test. In my former geog area the equine vets ended up with a monopoly of the work and by god didn't we all see our bills hike up? I know of owners who flatly refused certain tests but the vets went ahead and did them anyway, of billing more than once for the same treatment and I myself had to stop the young vet coming to unnecessarily "check" my horse 4 times a week....only to be told by the red-faced newbie that he had been told he had to generate a certain amount of money a month. I was bloody furious and I refused to pay the bill.
I entirely agree that vets take years to qualify, have big overheads and they are very skilled. but Im afraid that a lot of vet practices are also being run as businesses first and animal care centres second.... Im uncomfortable with that but maybe we all need to just get used to it. After all, theres no animal NHS.

re farriers: we pay £60 for a new full set of shoes , £40 for a half set and £20 for trimming only. I hate changing farriers but we had to when we moved here last October and I cannot fault our brilliant young farrier. he's always on time, he's quick and he's a horse-lover ( a lot of farriers aren't!). I love him and Id pay him more if he asked for it
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SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
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Re: Vet fees
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2015, 11:32:55 pm »
Ive never had a vet out to lamb a sheep (touch wood), but if it was going to cost something like £140 an hour, and may take a couple of hours, then I have to admit, the sheep would probably be shot instead. It may sound cruel, but in a commercial world, its just not viable.

I often think how lucky we are that we can make those decisions on a flock rather than individual basis - it's expensive to have one caesarean yes, probably more than we'll get for the ewe, but we don't calculate it that way.  If after a lambing season we feel we've had more vet fees than we can sustain, then we look at what and why, and what changes we need to make to reduce the necessity for the vet next time.  For instance, one year we had the vet for several lambings and we had two caesareans - when we analysed it, it was mostly one tup on one type of ewe, so we never put that tup to that type of ewe again.

We don't hesitate to call the vet if there's a lambing we can't manage ourselves.  At lambing time in our area, the vet is always out and about, so the callout charges are moderate.  If the ewe can take the journey we can save the callout fee taking her to the surgery - sometimes the vet asks us to do that as it'll be quicker.

If it's a real muddle in there and we can't fathom it - and/or are taking too long and stressing the ewe trying - we'd sooner get the vet and have her delivered quickly, more likely to have live lambs and be able to rear them, or if they're dead and we can't get them out, have them removed more quickly and the ewe on the road to recovery. 

The vet can administer an epidural, which we can't - so it can be a very quick job if we call the vet, and therefore a much higher probability of a successful outcome.



Our vet is not cheap by the hour, no, but they are vastly experienced and generally get whatever job done in short order.   Wouldn't be without them - and wouldn't want them to reinvest less in the practise, their equipment and staff.
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devonlady

  • Joined Aug 2014
Re: Vet fees
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2015, 08:29:47 am »
We were with our vets for nearly thirty years and couldn't fault them either for animal care or costs. Then the old vets retired and the young thruster took over. After a couple of mishaps with blood test results going missing we were a bit dubious (we were still charged!) the crunch came when I had a very poorly dog. I took her in, shaking and trembling (both of us) and the vet, without taking his eyes off the computer said "Put him on the table" It was a bitch!! Then started to examine her without even a "Hello, good dog" I might have been taking a hoover for repair.
We then found a practise of young vets who are wonderful. If a procedure is going to be costly we are always offered, discreetly, the option of paying bit by bit which I have never taken though you never know if this may be the only way.
The animals are always greeted by name and made a bit of a fuss of and you can tell that profit, though necessary is not the driving force.
I don't know if I can mention the practise on this site, if not delete it. Milestone Vets, Kingsteignton, Devon.
At present they only do small animals but I am trying to persuade them to branch out!

Paulie

  • Joined May 2013
Re: Vet fees
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2015, 10:09:27 am »
I had the vet come and take bloods from 1 ewe recently and it was £80

Loobylou

  • Joined May 2015
Re: Vet fees
« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2015, 12:42:57 pm »
That's pricey, 1 ewe, how long did it take?

Me

  • Joined Feb 2014
  • Wild West
Re: Vet fees
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2015, 05:59:28 pm »
Thats like saying is £5000 too much for a car. What is the car? What bloods were taken and what were they tested for?

devonlady

  • Joined Aug 2014
Re: Vet fees
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2015, 10:56:01 pm »
What you pay for is the fact that they can do it and you can't! Thank God for them.

Porterlauren

  • Joined Apr 2014
Re: Vet fees
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2015, 11:10:02 pm »
Cant take a blood sample from a sheep??? Really???

Me

  • Joined Feb 2014
  • Wild West
Re: Vet fees
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2015, 11:22:49 pm »
Like most things, its not the taking of the sample its knowing what sample to take and how to interpret the results

Porterlauren

  • Joined Apr 2014
Re: Vet fees
« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2015, 11:33:40 pm »
That is very true. . . but it's like a lot of things, if you are around sheep enough and pay attention to other peoples knowledge etc and aren't afraid to ask for help and ask questions, then you can learn a lot.

I.E After a while your vets will trust your judgement on something without seeing the animal and will just give you what drugs you dean you need, avoiding a call out fee / consultation fee.

I very much respect vets, but find that a lot of the physical work can be done 'in house'.

But i'm also happy to admit when I'm out of my depth and its a 'vet job'.

 

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