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sokel

  • Joined Jun 2012
    • S W northumberland
The Trots
« on: July 10, 2014, 09:57:20 pm »
Any suggestions for a quick cure or at least temporary cure for a 90kg wolfhound with the Trots ?
Will go to the vets tomorrow if he is no better
Paddy has decided upon himself to eat more than half a 4 kg sack of royal canin puppy food while I was at the Hospital this afternoon
and what goes in must come out when it does not agree with them and believe me  there is a lot coming out !  :o
Thankfully he has made it outside each time  ::)
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Graham

doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
    • Clackmannanshire
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Re: The Trots
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2014, 10:14:06 pm »
Do you mean he ate 4kg or 2 kg? " isn't so bad for an IWH.  I would just leave him, make sure he's in an area overnight that's easily cleaned up and don't feed him for 24 hours.
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sokel

  • Joined Jun 2012
    • S W northumberland
Re: The Trots
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2014, 10:30:30 pm »
Just weighed what's left and he has ate 2.8 kg of it. He gets a raw diet as he has always had a dodgy tummy and complete is a big no no for him
It's coming through him like water. If the smell does not kill me i will drown  ::)
He is staying in the back room with Niamh with the door open so he can get into the garden as and when he needs too. Nobody will get near the place with them two loose  :innocent:
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Graham

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
    • Cornwall
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Re: The Trots
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2014, 12:20:47 am »
It probably won't help, because this isn't bacterial, but it won't hurt and it may help - probiotic yoghurt.
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in the hills

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: The Trots
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2014, 07:28:18 am »
As Doganjo says .... starve for a good 24 hrs.

Then just a plain biscuit or 2 and gradually introduce feed again.

Bless him!
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sokel

  • Joined Jun 2012
    • S W northumberland
Re: The Trots
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2014, 11:04:36 am »
He is a lot better today , just going the normal times but a bit soft  ::) so  :fc: we are over it
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Graham

SallyintNorth

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    • Cornwall
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Re: The Trots
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2014, 11:56:24 am »
Good news  :thumbsup:
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Rosemary

  • Joined Oct 2007
    • Barry, Angus, Scotland
    • The Accidental Smallholder
Re: The Trots
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2014, 01:53:04 pm »
Poor boy. Do you think he will have learned his lesson? :innocent:
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Mammyshaz

  • Joined Feb 2012
    • Durham
Re: The Trots
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2014, 01:55:59 pm »
Star if is now contraindicated in diarrhea cases as the guts suffer be take longer to recuperate.
small meals of light die, chicken, fish, pasta, rice etc. Ifyou can still get it at the chemist then kaolin & morphine, or kaolin alone if they don't sell the latter. Probably 10mls 3x daily for a wolfy. Just for a couple of days.
Good luck and don't stand to close to the rear :-D
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doganjo

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Re: The Trots
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2014, 03:53:14 pm »
Do you mean don't starve?  if so my vet doesn't know that!  He always recommends staying off food for a  time, as does my doctor!  And to be honest any time I've had the runs I haven't felt like eating for a few hours.  I think it's perhaps Nature's way of letting the gut get back to normal.

Perhaps you meant something else?
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in the hills

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: The Trots
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2014, 04:02:05 pm »
That's interesting Mammyshaz.

My vet recommended at least 24 hrs starvation of our pup when she had runny bum. I rang for advice as she was very young at the time and on several meals a day. They said it was the first course of action and they would see her if it continued. It didn't so that was that.

She's only 12 mnths old now so not long ago. Is this very new research?

We've always starved older dogs for 24 hrs and then gradually reintroduced food. Bland food first. As Doganjo says .... as you would do with yourself really.  :-\
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Mammyshaz

  • Joined Feb 2012
    • Durham
Re: The Trots
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2014, 06:49:43 pm »
The last few cPDs vets and nurses have been on, starvation is now contraindicated. Small light meals should be given as no food going through the guts depletes the guts of necessary movement and absorption of needed nutrients to help recover. It is new as in the last couple of years. Even if vomiting, the advice is the same as long as the vomiting isn't too severe and the dog keeps some down. Medication should be given to help prevent vomiting so that feeding can continue.
We no longer advise starvation at home. If they are vomiting so much that they cannot keep anything down then they should be hospitalised. Never starve for diarrhoea

This is advice for gastric upsets. There will be certain medical conditions where this advice is contraindicated.
Just to add:- I'm not a vet and examinations have not been done so please follow your own vets recommendations before following any other advice   :innocent:
« Last Edit: July 11, 2014, 06:52:36 pm by Mammyshaz »
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midtown

  • Joined Oct 2013
    • English Lake District
Re: The Trots
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2014, 09:14:34 pm »
Starve for 12 hours, dose with Pro-Kolin as recommended by my Vet. Marvellous stuff, and it works. :thumbsup:
http://www.vetuk.co.uk/dog-supplements-cat-supplements-dog-diarrhoea-cat-diarrhoea-c-5_145/protexin-prokolin-antidiarrhoeal-probiotic-paste-p-249
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Mammyshaz

  • Joined Feb 2012
    • Durham
Re: The Trots
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2014, 09:21:48 pm »
Protexin  :thumbsup: great stuff. But don't starve, honestly, it's the new way and it works  :thumbsup: physically and scientifically
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doganjo

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Re: The Trots
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2014, 09:29:35 pm »
well as I have already said i didn't feel like eating when i had teh runs, so if the old method is good enough for me it's good enough for my dogs.
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