[Young Ed]

I'm so confused I'm not even sure if this is the right section of the forum?!

Any way so as you probably already know I am going to being keeping sheep for the first time this year (stock lambs so not for breeding just fatten up and then slaughter for the freezer)
We already keep pigs and thus have all the DEFRA numbers for that, including the holding number. The sheep will be on the same land and within the 5 or 10 km rule, so do I need a new separate holding number? I believe I need a herd number (3 sheep/lambs)? Any other numbers etc I need? How do I go about getting these numbers?

I then need to get ear tags made up with my herd number? As these will be store lambs and thus dead at younger than 1 year of age do they also need EID or what ever electronic tags when they go to the abattoir?

Anything I have missed?
Cheers Ed

[Backinwellies]

Your lambs will come with ear tags ... you need to nothing on that front. You only tag anything which you breed (or retag if tags are lost ... see link)    You will need a flock number  ... see link

https://www.gov.uk/sheep-and-goats-identification-registration-and-movement

[Young Ed]

Your lambs will come with ear tags ... you need to nothing on that front. You only tag anything which you breed (or retag if tags are lost ... see link)    You will need a flock number  ... see link

https://www.gov.uk/sheep-and-goats-identification-registration-and-movement

so the farmer i buy them off will have to tag them before he sells them to me? what do these tags have on them? so i won't need to tag anything, with a heard number or anything else?
Cheers Ed

[Backinwellies]

Animals are tagged on holding of birth and they keep those tags till slaughter... so no you don't.  (if tags are lost then you will have to order and put in 'red' tags .... but worry about that if it happens!

[Young Ed]

a good guide to replacing tags if lost
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/191538/sheep-tag-rules101217.pdf
Cheers Ed

[Young Ed]

how do i go about getting a flock number or what ever then? when do i need to do this, before or after the woolies have arrived? how much does this cost?
Cheers Ed

[ladyK]

You just need to call your local DEFRA office with your CPH number and tell them you plan to get sheep and they will issue you with a herd number (mine came in the post soon after)
I doesn't cost anything.

[bloomer]

in theory you can do it up to 7 days after the woolies arrive but if you know they're coming just do it now!!!

[Young Ed]

in theory you can do it up to 7 days after the woolies arrive but if you know they're coming just do it now!!!

they will be coming later in the summer so a month or two, but i guess that doesn't matter as once i have the herd number i can use that for years to come? do defra need to know how many woolies and when they come?
Cheers Ed

[Young Ed]

yet another DEFRA related question! sorry 
is one allowed to keep just 1 sheep (lamb)?  local farmer has a sock lamb that i have worked out i could take on and he is happy for me to
this lamb would then later be joined by some normal lambs on grass
Cheers Ed

[Young Ed]

If they are intended for slaughter within 12 months of age you have the option to identify them with a single ear tag (showing only your flock/herd mark).

https://www.gov.uk/sheep-and-goats-identification-registration-and-movement#introduction
do they mean the herd number of the herd they were born into or my new herd number?
Cheers Ed

[Marches Farmer]

It's flock number - it will be UK then six digits.  Your herd number (covers pigs and cows) will be two letters and four digits. 

[Hellybee]

ours adore all things, bar bread.   lol x

[Young Ed]

will call local DEFRA office when i get the time then!

ours adore all things, bar bread.   lol x

wrong thread? did you mean to post in the 'sheep treats?' thread?
Cheers Ed

[Me]

No my DEFRA don't like bread, gluten see.