Author Topic: Scanned for the first time  (Read 7932 times)

Azzdodd

  • Joined Apr 2012
Scanned for the first time
« on: February 09, 2014, 09:19:04 pm »
Girls were done today 6 ewes.....15 lambs 3 triplets 3 twins! Plans for the triplets already....don't have the time for bottle feeding.....sell them? This is the first time I will have lambed these ewes contacted previous owner he says a few have raised trips before.....what does everyone do with there triplets?

MarvinH

  • Joined Oct 2011
  • England
Re: Scanned for the first time
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2014, 09:24:55 pm »
What breed are your ewes?
If you dont need one to adopt on id probably sell them as some people will  pay silly money for them, failing that give them away.
Sheep

Tim W

  • Joined Aug 2013
Re: Scanned for the first time
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2014, 09:25:10 pm »
I have plenty of trips every year---they get treated the same as everyone else & left in the field to lamb/fend for themselves
Most rear twins , a few singles and a few trips
If I pick up a straggler I may feed it for 24 hrs and then sell it on ----otherwise the foxes & crows take care of them

If you haven't time to bottle rear them just accept that there will most likely be a dead lamb or two

Azzdodd

  • Joined Apr 2012
Re: Scanned for the first time
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2014, 09:30:01 pm »
Crossbreed cheviot X and charlois X i know prices were silly last year.....colostrum and sell? I have had ewes raise triplets before not one single too adopt on which is not grest

mojocafa

  • Joined Sep 2012
  • Angus
Re: Scanned for the first time
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2014, 09:33:28 pm »
Excuse my complete ignorance....

... But what's the problem with triplets?

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Azzdodd

  • Joined Apr 2012
Re: Scanned for the first time
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2014, 09:48:19 pm »
Ewes only have 2 teats.....unless there really milky ewes don't have enough milk

mowhaugh

  • Joined Jul 2013
  • Scottish Borders
    • Facebook
Re: Scanned for the first time
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2014, 09:56:24 pm »
We would generally lift one, then either twin it on to something with lots of milk and a single, or set it on to something that loses its lamb, in the mean time it would be on the shepherdess bucket.

Old Shep

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • North Yorkshire
Re: Scanned for the first time
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2014, 10:07:11 pm »
If you haven't time to bottle rear them just accept that there will most likely be a dead lamb or two


Sorry but I find that a bit negligent.  I may  be a smallholder but my parents were full time sheep farmers, and many generations before them, and they would ALWAYS try their best for each and every one.
Helen - (used to be just Shep).  Gordon Setters, Border Collies and chief lambing assistant to BigBennyShep.

Tim W

  • Joined Aug 2013
Re: Scanned for the first time
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2014, 10:25:11 pm »
If you haven't time to bottle rear them just accept that there will most likely be a dead lamb or two


Sorry but I find that a bit negligent.  I may  be a smallholder but my parents were full time sheep farmers, and many generations before them, and they would ALWAYS try their best for each and every one.

It's a business decision influenced by many factors ---the largest one in my case is not having facilities to foster or bottle rear lambs
The second largest factor is making a profit without the safety net of farmers dole (aka SFP)

moony

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Dent
Re: Scanned for the first time
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2014, 10:42:52 pm »
Surely a better business decision would be to get £10-£20 a piece for the extras rather than letting them die. People are queuing up to take them around here and a fair few will pay a lot more than that at anything from 1-3 days old. Stick some on Preloved and you will be amazed how popular they are. Failing that just twin them up, wastage is a loss.

sokel

  • Joined Jun 2012
  • S W northumberland
Re: Scanned for the first time
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2014, 10:50:52 pm »
Have to agree , last year we had people doing a 4hr return Journey to collect Cades . The phone did not stop ringing
Some of them advertised online at the moment are charging £35 + each  :o
Graham

Old Shep

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • North Yorkshire
Re: Scanned for the first time
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2014, 08:25:13 am »
It's a business decision influenced by many factors ---the largest one in my case is not having facilities to foster or bottle rear lambs
The second largest factor is making a profit without the safety net of farmers dole (aka SFP)


facilities to bottle feed?  all you need is a bottle and a bag of milk powder?
Helen - (used to be just Shep).  Gordon Setters, Border Collies and chief lambing assistant to BigBennyShep.

Tim W

  • Joined Aug 2013
Re: Scanned for the first time
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2014, 09:06:47 am »
All situations are different and mine is no exception

To raise a bottle lamb you have to first find it before the crows do, if you live on farm this may be simple but as a grazier with the nearest land 6 miles away that is not so easy (lambing 900 ewes on 6 sites)
Most of the time when I arrive to check around ewes the triplet bearers have 2 or 3 lambs at foot--if they have 2 the 3rd is almost always missing or there are just a few remains from scavengers. If they have 3 at foot then they usually rear them. In fact this year I used 3 ram lambs on my flock that came from triplets where all 3 were raised to weaning by the mother
I quite agree that a saved orphan lamb is a good sale and I do plenty of this but there are still some that escape the net and die in the field---that's part of the life/death struggle that is part of farming

In spite of my negligent ways I still manage to rear 165%+ on ewes and 85%+ on ewe lambs every year. This is way above the average for UK farmers (I also don't collect the afore mentioned farmers dole so make a real profit)  ;)

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Scanned for the first time
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2014, 09:10:00 am »
When you are lambing on a farm scale, the amount of work to look after orphaned lambs is significant.  And you can find yourself all too frequently deciding on whether to spend time saving this lamb, or getting out and checking the ewes again - where a lamb or even a ewe could be being lost because you are not there to help.

It's different when you have only a handful, of course it seems easier to manage it all then.  On the moorland farm we lambed the 80-odd mules first, and with two of us, it hardly seemed to impinge on ordinary life.  Then the 400+ Swaleys kicked in and it was flat out madness for 17 days.

To sell them on, a conscientious farmer will make sure all lambs have had adequate colostrum in the first few hours, have fed well for at least 24 hours and seem well-established.  That's the very bit of work takes all the time and effort! 

So whilst I can't just leave 'em to fade away but have to try to save 'em, I can completely understand others making different decisions.  And it doesn't mean they are heartless, just that they don't have the manpower to produce 'spare' lambs to sell on, and aren't willing to sell them on, badly or not prepared, to unsuspecting punters.
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

Marches Farmer

  • Joined Dec 2012
  • Herefordshire
Re: Scanned for the first time
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2014, 09:59:57 am »
If you bottle feed the lambs first thing in the morning, when you get home at night and just before bedtime it will help.  There are also multi-suckle buckets available (look at Fearings website) as well as the Shepherdess heated drinker system (although an expensive option for a few lambs). 

On the subject of "farmer's dole" this keeps the price of food down as many farmers would go under without it.  I don't know a single farmer who likes it to be this way - we would much rather be paid the true cost of production plus a meaningful profit but people have become used to cheap food and we are where we are.  Where we also are is having to meet a very strict set of rules with regard to keeping the land in good agricultural and environmental condition, safeguarding water quality, not cultivating field margins and so on.  If some of these rules weren't in place we could exploit every inch of ground and make more money that way. 

 

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