will do thanks, just spoke to the lad with the VW, he is going to finish off the bits of mig welding then it will need towing to where it needs to get MOT'd it would be great if it were near, I did not send it to Bonny bridge in the first place the local garage did, so now the breaks are not working so it will need to be towed......I am soooo patient but sometimes!!!!!! not much that I can do really, and of course, now it is multi coloured due to all the bits welded onto it!!! one day!!!!!P.S hope your back is improving, one of the worst things to have!!!! off to Youth Club now ;)work !!!