UPDATE
The original post was about mum number 1 however this update is about her twin, mum number 2.
Checked on goats at 5pm and all seemed fine. At 9 pm checked again and mum number 2 had delivered a single kid which was all cleaned up so guessing she was born about 7 pm, so once again I missed it.
Wasn't happy with mum number 2 presentation so seeked advice from shy girl and MGOM. Thank you so much
. At midnight phoned vet who said that as she was now more settled we would leave her and reassess in the morning. Hubby sat with her till 330 am. I went out this morning at 5.30. Still wasn't happy with how she was presenting so after another conversation with vet, we took her into the surgery and were given the choice of pts or c- section. Advised that there was a kid which was stuck and possible dead so we chose to have c- section to at least save the mum and low and behold kid was alive.
They're back home now and mums a bit groggy so hopefully all will be well.
delighted with the outcome, however it's all physically and emotionally exhausting, but I guess it's part of the learning curve.