[Pasture Farm]

Just been to top field to find Charollais tup down    can't get up     this years ram lamb   in with a dozen ewes   due out today     fine yesterday afternoon on the late check  not been down long  no mess    got him in barn   just wondering any ideas??

[Blacksheep]

Could be pasturella?  will need treating very promptly with appropriate antibiotics (penicllin is not effective) if it is for best chance of recovery.

[shep53]

Several ideas ?     hope youv'e phoned a vet      temp or normal ?

[jaykay]

Talk to the vet.

Could try Calciject or twin lamb drench if you have either around from lambing - both will raise blood sugar levels and neither will do any harm. Some tups just don't eat when around the girls, and this year's lamb won't have much 'reserve'. If that's all it is, he'll be back on his feet pretty quickly.

But it could also be much more serious than that - so phone the vet.

[SteveHants]

If hes a lamb I would suspect pneumonia and give him Alamycin/Engymicin ASAP

[henchard]

Any oak trees? Just lost a good ewe due to eating acorns as there are so many on the trees this year.

[in the hills]

Any news? 

[Pasture Farm]

Liver Fluke         I treated all the flock for it apart from this one Tup who was a recent purchase I did treat him for worms during his incubation period but not for Fluke. He had been Heptavaced     
Vet tried to help but he is now Dead first time ive had fluke and could not believe how fast it takes them

[SallyintNorth]

Sorry you lost your tup   

first time ive had fluke and could not believe how fast it takes them

It's not that it takes them fast, it's that they can conceal their symptoms until it's almost too late.  So sorry you've had to learn the hard way, but hopefully your story will save other people from making the same mistake.   

[Pedwardine]

So sorry for you and your poor tup. We often learn these lessons the hardest way. Really feel for you.

[devonlad]

So sorry to hear what's happened. Sure it's no consolation but we had pretty much the same thing happen. Last autumn we bought a ram as we had problems hiring one. We were told he'd been drenched so didn't do anything additional. He did the biz with our girls and then we lent him to our friend where he stayed throughout the winter. We planned to sell him on  in the spring and having found a buyer we offered to keep him a few more weeks until the shearer came, so that he was all smart and good to go. On shearing day we also planned to drench everyone including him ( we use a wormer and separate flukicide). As the shearer started he commented that he felt a bit thin under all that wool- and a few moments later in mid shear he died. The shearer was terribly upset and blamed himself though it wasn't his doing. he had to finish shearing him dead and he was a bag of bones.We hadn't been up close to him since December and felt terrible and couldn't help think that we would have noticed he was pretty anaemic looking if he'd been at home. Afterwards my friend said " he has been a bit lethargic lately but I didn't think anything of it"-  we were very cross with him, but at the end of the day our livestock are our responsibility
A horrible day which had me ringing the buyer who had set off to us to tell him it wasn't happening. In future we plan not to take any chances with bought in stock and always assume unless it can be definitely proved that we need to start from scratch with them. There's only a point to getting it wrong if we learn from it I think. I do feel for you

[SallyintNorth]

Just in case anyone isn't aware - fluke drenching needs to be repeated at 6-8 week intervals during the risk period, generally October through March, and all year round in wet years or if the previous year was particularly wet.  (Keep checking the NADIS forecasts for up-to-date advice for your region.)

[Bionic]

Pasture Farm, such sad news 
Sally, thanks for that reminder. I fluke drenched mine on 26th Oct, including the new tup, and your post has prompted me to put a note in the diary for around 14th Dec.

[in the hills]

   Sorry but thanks for posting. Ours are due but having trouble getting the lambs in. Priority now.

[lachlanandmarcus]

We're on dry sandy sloping land (so dry our well ran low recently!!) and fluke test was negative in the summer. Vet said to minimise resistance we shouldn't fluke routinely given our conditions. Hope he was right?!!