[Old Shep]

2 to 3% of raw is fine.  Sorry I think in metric these days!  My 28kg setter gets around 700gms per day, and my 20kg setters get 500gms per day, ish!  20kg collie though gets more like 700gms otherwise he gets a bit thin.  IMO the protein from raw doesn't have the same hyper effect as protein in kibble as that is often vegetable/cereal based protein rather than from animal sources.

[AndynJ]

our dog is super wouldn't change him for the world, I wouldn't know what hyper is, he has the energy to do whatever we ask of him until the hens go to bed then he's dead to the world though he is a guard dog as well so occasionally he has a bad night, (due to outside movements, he wakes barks we are up walk out a little then settle down again) we do try to make the next day easier for him.

[MarvinH]

My collie eats raw meat + veg, 2lb meat day, very healthy best thing I ever did for him.

[AndynJ]

Well I've given in, these blinking rabbits we have hundreds but I pick the gun up none anywhere I put it down go back outside and trip over one  Well a trap it be then little ******* 

[Steph Hen]

I'm finding the same 

[AndynJ]

UPDATE
trap has been going well, gun comes out occasionally, but best of all the dog had his first one yesterday,
good on you boy 

[happygolucky]

  , that's the best way to get them, free food for the dogs and you...!