[shygirl]

Im selling my house shortly and im separating the house from the land.
the estate agent has told me to use an architect to re-draw the boundaries. this is fine except they want £800 plus VAT. it includes a site visit to measure the fences and to draw it on the official land / deed title (or crate a new one). it will be sent away to registry once we have an offer in.
Now, im planning on selling a couple of field, maybe as plots, and a barn separately at some point in the future and £800 each would be a big percentage of their value. our neighbours bought tiny bits of land next to their house for a few thousand and im sure they wouldnt have been for sale so cheap if the drawing fee was £800.

is their a cheaper way of re-drawing the boundaries, that isnt going to upset solicitors when a sale goes ahead? is there a difference to drawing the boundarys on a piece of land - to a house?

many thanks, i really have no clue so hopefully someone will know.

im trying to research via google but dont know what to type in - is it architects or draftsmen?

[doganjo]

I had to have a Land Agent to do mine when i split my land between the house I built and the one I sold and it was about the same  £750 plus VAT  He only put in a one foot high stick at teh corner and had to come back and do it again - stupid man.

Try typing in land measurement or Land register - this might help

http://www.landregistryservices.com/land-registry/

[goosepimple]

I'm an architect and years ago mind you, I used to do the odd Deed Plan for solicitors and charged £75 - 20 years on though that does seem a bit steep but then I'm not sure what's involved in this one. 


Perhaps a land surveyor may send someone down to do it, just go over it yourself when you get it and make totally sure they have got it right, that fence lines etc are where they should be and that they have taken the measurement to the correct line - go around with them when they're doing it is best. 


Its surprising how many deeds are signed and the plan has been done wrong historically and people just accept that it's probably right.  Take a bit of time.

[john and helen]

I wonder how accurate the tape measure is on google earth,

[shygirl]

I'm an architect and years ago mind you, I used to do the odd Deed Plan for solicitors and charged £75 - 20 years on though that does seem a bit steep but then I'm not sure what's involved in this one. 


Perhaps a land surveyor may send someone down to do it, just go over it yourself when you get it and make totally sure they have got it right, that fence lines etc are where they should be and that they have taken the measurement to the correct line - go around with them when they're doing it is best. 

they literally have to drawn the garden boundary, rather than the surrounding land.
i was told the land registry is another £500 on top to be processed.

our neighbouring house had a mistake on their plans as there was a 2 metre gap between their drive and the access road.

thanks, i will look up land register/measurement...great, the internet is great but a pest if you get the search words wrong 

[Daisys Mum]

Get it right! we are buying the field next to our house and it has taken 5 months up to now as the boundaries were wrong.
I could have bought a house in less time than it has taken.

[shygirl]

Get it right! we are buying the field next to our house and it has taken 5 months up to now as the boundaries were wrong.
I could have bought a house in less time than it has taken.

it took 5 yrs to get our deeds back from registry as it was a newly registered property when we bought it, and there was a long queue ( ).
the estate agent told us to get them drawn and then just wait for an offer of purchase before they are sent away. does this sound normal practise?

[ShaunP]

All I have done in the past is to give the solicitors the title plan with what is being sold. It can be useful to write measurements on the plan to avoid any confusion. Would suggest you check with your solicitor on there thoughts before paying an Architect!!!

[suziequeue]

I would go to any lengths to get it absolutely right sooner rather than delays and hair tearing later. Although architects seem expensive, £800 is cheap compared to a lost sale or boundary dispute and endless legal fees etc etc.

[doganjo]

The Land Registry is now used for all transfers and new properties.  It used to be 'post and wire from red shed to black bin'.    Has to be absolutely accurate now.

[Bramblecot]

Would it be cheaper to fence the land exactly how you want it split up, and then use 'existing fence line' in your sale offers?  We wasted a fortune on architects

[doganjo]

That's what I meant in my previous post - 'existing fence line' etc is no longer allowed.  All registrations have to be accompanied by a land plan.  I believe an O'S section is enough though so long as it ties in exactly with your land.

[goosepimple]

Nobody wastes a fortune on architects    but for deed plans it's better to get a land surveyor, they will be up to date on all that is required and will know what are common historical mistakes.


You're paying good money to someone, make sure they do it right, I wouldn't think twice about just telling them I was going around with them when they do it, it won't seem arrogant to do that.

[shygirl]

the googling didnt go to well so im seeing the original architect tomorrow for a prelim meeting.
i have the title plans plus title number, and ordnance survey number/maps, which include the house and the fields but they are also wanting the farm registration number. i dont know what this is as iv never claimed subsidies in the 10 yrs we have been here and the land is mainly woodland. does it mean holding number or is it something else?
if its something else, who do i ask for it?
many thanks in advance. 

[lachlanandmarcus]

the googling didnt go to well so im seeing the original architect tomorrow for a prelim meeting.
i have the title plans plus title number, and ordnance survey number/maps, which include the house and the fields but they are also wanting the farm registration number. i dont know what this is as iv never claimed subsidies in the 10 yrs we have been here and the land is mainly woodland. does it mean holding number or is it something else?
if its something else, who do i ask for it?
many thanks in advance. 

I haven't either but wanted to under the new system and the form wanted a farm registration number as well as the CPH holding number. I didnt think we had one but I rang the council (can't remember where they put me thorough to but think it was Rural Payments officer or something and apparently we did have one, which they gave me.


So if CPH isn't what they mean, you may have a farm business reg no already, or you can register to get one.


Probably they just want cPH but if not hope that helps.