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goosepimple

  • Joined May 2010
  • nr Lauder, Scottish Borders
HELP PLEASE: ill goat kid
« on: August 06, 2013, 08:01:05 pm »
Thanks - pygmy goat kid, 10 weeks old, fine earlier today, now yelling in pain - doesn't want to stand up much, calling out all the time, not interested in her tea, can't settle, lying down with head down too.  Looks like perhaps a sore tummy?  Bottom end perhaps a little skitty but nothing really, normal coloured poo I can see.  Perhaps constipated but perhaps the other way.  If she stands up she looked a bit strained.


This ringing any bells with anyone?  Only thing that was 'different' today was my putting out some flaked maize (like cornflakes for animals) at lunch time as everyone seemed to be hungry.  She had her usual milk (bottle fed) then and takes little solid after that.  Likely she had some but then there's usually some of that in the sheep crunch they have at mealtimes so don't see it could have harmed her (?)


She's very unhappy.  If you have any advice, many thanks.
registered soay, castlemilk moorit  and north ronaldsay sheep, pygmy goats, steinbacher geese, muscovy ducks, various hens, lots of visiting mallards, a naughty border collie, a puss and a couple of guinea pigs

Brucklay

  • Joined Apr 2010
  • Perthshire
    • Brucklay Pygmy Goats
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Re: HELP PLEASE: ill goat kid
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2013, 08:07:15 pm »
Sorry GP - I wouldn't guess/risk it - I'd take her to the vet asap - they can go downhill so quickly - hope all is well soon  :fc:

Pygmy Goats, Shetland Sheep, Zip & Indie the Border Collies, BeeBee the cat and a wreak of a building to renovate!!

goosepimple

  • Joined May 2010
  • nr Lauder, Scottish Borders
Re: HELP PLEASE: ill goat kid
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2013, 08:32:22 pm »
Hmmm, reluctant to do that straight away Brucklay - if she stands up she is straining with back legs out behind her, back arched a bit. 


I'm inclined to have a gut feeling of  it's tummy ache / wind?  (excuse pun). 


I've left her with her mum and aunty and they're all settling down to sleep.  She was calling me though as I left, she looks tired but unhappy I would say. Worry worry.
registered soay, castlemilk moorit  and north ronaldsay sheep, pygmy goats, steinbacher geese, muscovy ducks, various hens, lots of visiting mallards, a naughty border collie, a puss and a couple of guinea pigs

Daisys Mum

  • Joined May 2009
  • Scottish Borders
Re: HELP PLEASE: ill goat kid
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2013, 08:44:52 pm »
Does sound like tummy pain Amanda, sorry cant offer any advice but hope she will be ok  :fc:
Anne

goosepimple

  • Joined May 2010
  • nr Lauder, Scottish Borders
Re: HELP PLEASE: ill goat kid
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2013, 08:47:39 pm »
Thanks Anne, going out in 20 mins to try and give her time to settle if she can. 
registered soay, castlemilk moorit  and north ronaldsay sheep, pygmy goats, steinbacher geese, muscovy ducks, various hens, lots of visiting mallards, a naughty border collie, a puss and a couple of guinea pigs

mojocafa

  • Joined Sep 2012
  • Angus
Re: HELP PLEASE: ill goat kid
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2013, 09:12:53 pm »
Is she still yelling in pain, hope it is just a sore tummy, a while back I had a young goat that had a twisted gut but she wasnt as young as 10 weeks, she howled and howled, it was awful. Fingers crossed for you both
pygmy goats, gsd, border collie, scots dumpys, cochins, araucanas, shetland ducks and geese,  marrans, and pea fowl in a pear tree.

ballingall

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  • Joined Sep 2008
  • Avonbridge, Falkirk
Re: HELP PLEASE: ill goat kid
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2013, 09:19:27 pm »
Nothing conclusive that it sounds like I'm afraid. Does sound like her tummy is sore. You are right, the flaked maize would be fine, so no issues there.


Does her tummy look bloated, more rounded than normal?


Beth

jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: HELP PLEASE: ill goat kid
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2013, 09:25:36 pm »
Bloat? Could the the maize.

Syringe about 20ml of olive oil and then another 20ml of - a teaspoon of baking powder mixed in water - and see how she goes. It settles any acid and relieves the gas (breaks down the frothy bubbles so that they can fart/burp it out.

shygirl

  • Joined May 2013
Re: HELP PLEASE: ill goat kid
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2013, 09:27:55 pm »
did she get barley? we lost a sheep to too much barley once as it began fermenting. vet pumped stomach with water.

goosepimple

  • Joined May 2010
  • nr Lauder, Scottish Borders
Re: HELP PLEASE: ill goat kid
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2013, 09:30:04 pm »
Thanks B, yes just been out and she 'feels' bloated - have been googling and bloat has come up lots but there are degrees of how bloated  ::)   She's lying on her side with back legs out straight and crying now and then - there is obviously some sort of pain there.  Don't see skitty bum so more inclined to think constipation.  Its that vet or not thing at 9.30pm or wait and see how she is in the morning, it's getting dark here now and not sure what to do.  Think I'll phone vet just now anyway.
registered soay, castlemilk moorit  and north ronaldsay sheep, pygmy goats, steinbacher geese, muscovy ducks, various hens, lots of visiting mallards, a naughty border collie, a puss and a couple of guinea pigs

goosepimple

  • Joined May 2010
  • nr Lauder, Scottish Borders
Re: HELP PLEASE: ill goat kid
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2013, 09:31:39 pm »
Sorry jaykay and shygirl our posts clashed.  No barley shygirl and will go out and do that now Jaykay and see how it goes til the morning.


Thanks all will post a.m.  :fc:
registered soay, castlemilk moorit  and north ronaldsay sheep, pygmy goats, steinbacher geese, muscovy ducks, various hens, lots of visiting mallards, a naughty border collie, a puss and a couple of guinea pigs

Bumblebear

  • Joined Jun 2012
  • Norfolk
    • http://southwellski.blogspot.co.uk/
Re: HELP PLEASE: ill goat kid
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2013, 09:40:32 pm »
When my kid had belly ache a week or so ago, he was yawning alot and scracthing his tummy.  He didnt do as you describe though :(  I just stood him on the a-frame (front feet on the a frame and feet on the floor) so he was stretched and slightly elevated.  That seemed to releive some of his discomfort.  I also gave him a teaspoon of bicarb in a bit of water and popped it in a bottle.  He was right as rain within an hour or so.  Good luck with your little one.

goosepimple

  • Joined May 2010
  • nr Lauder, Scottish Borders
Re: HELP PLEASE: ill goat kid
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2013, 09:46:38 pm »
Thanks for that, OH and myself just syringed in the elixer (got most of it down) and made sure she was settled, she wasn't crying when we left so that makes me feel more positive.  OH thinks she will be jet propelled after that.  Thanks all  :fc:  why aren't there any livestock that can speak it would make things so much easier  ::)  see you on the flipside.
registered soay, castlemilk moorit  and north ronaldsay sheep, pygmy goats, steinbacher geese, muscovy ducks, various hens, lots of visiting mallards, a naughty border collie, a puss and a couple of guinea pigs

Anke

  • Joined Dec 2009
  • St Boswells, Scottish Borders
Re: HELP PLEASE: ill goat kid
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2013, 10:04:03 pm »
I would go out again late at night to check on her, if she isn't any better and still crying out in pain it may be enterotoxaemia. I don't want to worry you overly, but it doesn't always have diarrhoea with it, but some of the things you listed  above are also signs of enterotox. Let's hope she is better in the morning  :fc:
 
If she is bloated trying to walk her around and massaging her belly is also helpful.

Lesley Silvester

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Telford
Re: HELP PLEASE: ill goat kid
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2013, 10:34:43 pm »
Hope she is much  better by now. I know how helpless you feel when your animal is in pain but can't tell you about it.  :hug:

 

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