Author Topic: 4th time and not in Kid  (Read 4356 times)

sokel

  • Joined Jun 2012
  • S W northumberland
4th time and not in Kid
« on: February 12, 2013, 09:52:09 pm »
We have a Togg that Kidded 3 years ago, we got her just after she had kidded. we put her to a Togg Billy last year and she didnt take and then we where snowed in so didnt get her back to the billy.
This year she has been with our billy 4 times and tonight she looks like she is coming into season again  :-\
Never had this problem before but wondered if there is anything we could try as when she is in full milk she is a fantastic milker from milk recorded lines but she is now down to 2 pints a day
Graham

wytsend

  • Joined Oct 2010
  • Okehampton
Re: 4th time and not in Kid
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2013, 07:05:57 am »
If you are certain your male is fertile then clearly the female is the guilty party !   
If she is cycling accurately every 3 weeks/or was because most goats have stopped now,   and still not getting in kid,  then there is the possibility that she is infertile. 
IF her seasons were eratic,   then there is the possibiliuty that she has cystic ovaries,  which are treatable quite easily.   Your Vet will inject hormones.......usually only needed once but can sometimes be needed again.   The Vet will probably recommend leaving it now until the Autumn.
 

sokel

  • Joined Jun 2012
  • S W northumberland
Re: 4th time and not in Kid
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2013, 04:44:02 pm »
The Billy is definatly fertile,every other nanny he has covered is in kid
She gave birth to triplets 3 years ago , we actualy say the birth.
she has cycled every 3 weeks to the day and tomorrow is 3 weeks since she was last in season and she is swishing her tail, something she always does the day before she is fully in.
Graham

Anke

  • Joined Dec 2009
  • St Boswells, Scottish Borders
Re: 4th time and not in Kid
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2013, 05:01:57 pm »
I think you may have to assess her (financial) worth as a breeding animal before you go down the (expensive) route of establishing if she is fertile or not. Easier to do in a boy, very difficult to do in a female, especially if all outwards signs are that she is cycling normal, has kidded successfully before etc.
 
She could have had post-kidding infections or similar...
 
But it is such a shame if she is a good milker  - is she oure togg of bt?

sokel

  • Joined Jun 2012
  • S W northumberland
Re: 4th time and not in Kid
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2013, 05:10:45 pm »
sorry She is a BT , from good milking/show lines and was actually successfully shown herself
she was giving around 12 pints a day after she kidded
Graham

Anke

  • Joined Dec 2009
  • St Boswells, Scottish Borders
Re: 4th time and not in Kid
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2013, 05:20:55 pm »
I just don't know if you will have any success, my vet have declined in the past to look at a ewe with similar problems... as it is so difficult to find the reason behind female infertility and then actually be able to do something about it...
 
You may find out she's infertile, but what after that? She must be 4, 5 years old? You would get a good replacement goatling for about 200 pounds, and if she is dried up she will only really need hay to maintain her... I have so far not been able to send away adult female milkers....
 

sokel

  • Joined Jun 2012
  • S W northumberland
Re: 4th time and not in Kid
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2013, 05:53:26 pm »
If she does not get into kid she will stay here anyway as hate the idea of passing her on
she gets on great with the others so would be a companion if we ever had to split them into different sheds
Graham

Anke

  • Joined Dec 2009
  • St Boswells, Scottish Borders
Re: 4th time and not in Kid
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2013, 08:52:29 pm »
If she does not get into kid she will stay here anyway as hate the idea of passing her on
she gets on great with the others so would be a companion if we ever had to split them into different sheds

You could try and sponge her early in the autumn, inject PMSG and then mate to a proven male. That would give her a final chance... but a dry goat doesn't reallly eat that much, so not too much of a problem if you give her a home for life. All of my starter goats will have a home for life with me...

 

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