[Daisys Mum]

Just gone out to check kid that was disbudded this morning and found him hiding away. Every time he goes near mum she buts him away and is still looking for her kid, he was only away for about an hour and a half , so I thought she would be fine with him.

[Brucklay]

Hi DM - got your message and replied before seeing the post - so if the op was this morning then he won't be starving yet, hungry but not starving - you have time to work with Mum into letting him under her.

My back is so sore with crawling around on the ground milking Prue I made a milking stand yesterday (pygmy size though) yet to try it out!!

[Anke]

He will smell differently. I don't have much of an experience with that as we take our kids off their dams after disbudding and they go onto the bottle. If you need some goats milk urgently I do have still quite a bit. and snow permitting we could meet up somewhere half way.
 
However people have tried various things with sheep - mainly to confuse the ewes sense of smell and once the wee one is back under and the milk comes out the other end they are normally fine. You could try and spray the mum's nose with something strong and also the wee one maybe... Or you could restrain mum and make sure the kid gets on without her butting him out of the way (quite difficult with goats I know...)
 
If you can't get him back on it will have to be the bottle, but it would be a shame as the milk is there and not using it would aso risk mastitis in the dam....

[countrywoman]

Last spring my twins weren't being allowed to suckle after disbudding but we realised mum had sore teats (she is delicate and think-skinned) and it was nothing to do with them smelling of vet-chemicals.  Changed to milking her into bottles which they soon got the hang of - everyone happy although it made more work for me!

[sokel]

you could try rubbing some of her wet bedding on him to get him smelling more how he should also as said already keep hold of her or tie her up so that she can't butt him

[goosepimple]

Oh anne, sorry to hear that.  I put a post on about a 'lamb adoptor' which is a gate/fence like structure that is a crush and would be ideal for her size, its £16 plus vat from a place in St Boswells, it would hold her head (bowl in front with treats) while you put the wee under her.  If I can be of any assistance or if you want me to go and buy one and bring it up that's ok, bit of a stress for you Anne, it was all going so well.

[jaykay]

Tie her up and get him feeding. She'll feel more comfortable, he'll start to smell right again and it'll sort out.
I don't often disagree with CW but I think it is both to do with him smelling wrong and also being 'damaged', which she will also be able to smell.

[Daisys Mum]

Have managed to get him feeding by holding onto mum and lifting a front leg otherwise she just lies down . She does not seemso stressed this morning and although he had slept in his little box on its side she was lying beside it.

[Brucklay]

That's great - I sure things will settle down in time 

[sokel]

Glad things are settling down and hopefully it will be back to normal in no time at all

[Anke]

Good!

[goosepimple]

Well done Anne, your OH will be glad to get back to work .. 

[Lesley Silvester]

Looks like she's getting used to his strange smell now.  Brilliant. 

[jaykay]

Oh good, that sounds positive. Well done  Keep loving your little fella, goatmum 

[Daisys Mum]

Oh good, that sounds positive. Well done  Keep loving your little fella, goatmum 

I wouldn't go as far as to say she loves him but she is getting a bit easier to hold to let him in to feed, hopefully he is getting enough. I am managing 6 feeds a day starting at 6.30 am and last one just about now, do you think this is enough?