the thing is people get the wrong idea. Even on Sunday I had someone sucking their teeth when I told them about my 2 new litters, with a 'you don't want that now, girl etc etc'. They reckon everyone is heading down, but it is the big boys without access to credit from banks that don't like the look of the commodity they loan for. If you can see yourself through the dip, you are in a different position. I guess these people trying by pigs for absolutely nothing are riding on the general wave, that isn't necessarily the same for everyone.