[colliewoman]

 


shocking eh?


I went in for some bits and they had reduced their Hovis wholemeal bread to 15p a loaf


I bought 30 for the piggies


Bargain


Considering I'm normally bitching about how they don't have much wheat free stuff, then buy a mountain of wheaty piggy goodness

[Brucklay]

Love it     always on the look out for a discount on the lettuce for the ducks - their treat - iceberg, thinly shredded, starting about now - best be on the look out

[sokel]

Great bargain ! I never get to a Tescos at the right time to get the bargains as usualy only in town during the day

[Fowgill Farm]

Top bargain , wish our Co-op was a bit better on that front. last week they had about 20 odd loaves of warburtons on the discounted shelf, normally retailing at £1.35/loaf but they'd only discounted them to 99p! If they'd made them cheaper like Tesco price i'd have bought the lot too as it is they probably all went in the skip out the back!   I once asked the manager if he could let me know when they were getting shot of their bread so i could buy it at say 20p a loaf but he said he wasn't allowed to discount it that cheap, surely some sale is better than none?
Mandy

[Bionic]

Great deal.   
Generaly I buy the tesco value loaves at 49p each.  All the animals seem to love it and if I run out of bread myself I share theirs 
Sally

[colliewoman]

Top bargain , wish our Co-op was a bit better on that front. last week they had about 20 odd loaves of warburtons on the discounted shelf, normally retailing at £1.35/loaf but they'd only discounted them to 99p! If they'd made them cheaper like Tesco price i'd have bought the lot too as it is they probably all went in the skip out the back!   I once asked the manager if he could let me know when they were getting shot of their bread so i could buy it at say 20p a loaf but he said he wasn't allowed to discount it that cheap, surely some sale is better than none?
Mandy

 
 
Apparently Coop are the only peeps who don't lock their skips or put anything nasty in them to taint the 'rubbish' 

[Fowgill Farm]

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Apparently Coop are the only peeps who don't lock their skips or put anything nasty in them to taint the 'rubbish' 

Nods as good as a wink   will check that out
mandy

[rispainfarm]

ok cat amongst the pigeons here. You are not allowed to buy from a bread etc from a supermarket and then give it to the pigs.

[colliewoman]

Really?? That's a bit of a kicker

[lachlanandmarcus]

ok cat amongst the pigeons here. You are not allowed to buy from a bread etc from a supermarket and then give it to the pigs.

Thats what I understood too - nor to chickens, sheep, any livestock.
Even if the bread itself is in theory veggie, the processing takes place in facilities which regularly use animal products, sometimes on the same production line. So only unprocessed waste raw food can be fed without a special licence (eg spent brewery products have one, cos they can prove the single process is uncontaminated throughout).
Its up to peeps what they do, but afaik that's the law.

[colliewoman]

Poo    seeings as I am Mrs wheat intolerant.... Does anyone want some bread?

[Fowgill Farm]

then why on my bags of feed does it list by products of  confectionery, bakery & pastry industry! Surely pastry uses lard, confectionery gelatin etc plus every A,E,U number that they're allowed to!
mandy
 ps playing devils advocate, know about the bread thing but jam sandwiches are sometimes the only way to get meds into my larger pigs!

[Bionic]

I thought that as long as the bread didn't pass through MY kitchen I was ok. Although not that it matters to me now as the bread is only going to my ducks and geese, none of which are for food.
There was a thread some while back in the pig section where we talked about getting food from supermarkets and I am sure that someone with experience said it was ok to give supermarket food because they have their own food handling systems which have been ok'd. Is this not correct?
Sally

[lachlanandmarcus]

The Defra regulation states:
"
The fed ban extends to the feeding of catering waste to farmed animals. Catering waste is defined as 'all waste food, including used cooking oil, originating in restaurants, catering facilities and kitchens, including central kitchens and household kitchens'.

"It is illegal to feed farmed animals catering waste that contains or has been in contact with animal by-productsas this is a potential source of disease. 'Farmed animals' includes any pet animals that belong to a farmed species, such as pet pigs, goats and poultry.

Catering waste includes food waste kitchens, including domestic kitchens, retailers, food factories, distribution warehouses etc. that contains or has been in contact with animal by-products (such as raw eggs, meat, fish products). The ban includes the use of Used Cooking Oils (UCOs) originating in restaurants, catering facilities and kitchens, including central kitchens and household kitchens."
I guess the query arises whether you can guarantee/satisfy yourself that supermarket surplus fulfils this. It might - but Im not sure how an individual could be sure of what happens in the process lines. The animal feed people can, as they are doing it on a wholesale basis so can inspect the specific production lines etc, or else get the waste from a point in the process they know to be 'clean' which isnt used for any non veggie products etc. I think they do also have to get approval too so there may be an official check on the production facility too. ie the OK would be for specific products from specific supermarket production lines.
In practice to give bread bought in the normal way and which states all veggie ingredients and which doesnt have any warning stating (as some veggie products do) 'may have been made in a production process where animal products are used' MIGHT be enough to convince the inspectors that you are following the rules. It depends whether they had a bad day or want to make an example out of someone, as I dont think it has been test-cased.
Certainly anything 'skip surfed' could not comply as it would be highly possible it could be contaminated with prohibited products whether apparent or not.

[colliewoman]

But the bread I bought isn't waste food and states clearly on it 'suitable for vegetarians'.


I can understand the waste food regs, but bought food that has been nowhere near my kitchen?