[kaz]

This question is really, do I need to have the mouth swabs verified by the vet, that they are from the dogs I say for the Kennel Club to accept the results.
It's really a question for Doganjo as the dogs have already got clear certificates for prcd_pra and this new test is different in that it is only mouth swabs and not blood samples.

[Moleskins]

I'm sure Doganjo will be along soon,
I didn't have mine verified by the vet, as I read the form from the AHT that was only required if the identity of the dog was in question.
I had Fuco and PRA cord 1 done

[kaz]

I know when you fill in the form online that it gives you the option of naming your vets. This test is a new one for Golden Retrievers and as the results will go on their individual Health Test Results it is probably something the Kennel  Club will want to verify.
I had the prcd_pra done at the lab in America which cost £245 for 2 dogs and those results are sent to the Kennel Club, but don't show on their individual Health Test results.

[doganjo]

I think it is on a 'trust' basis, on the assumption that if you want to do a DNA test in the first place you are honest!  Not suer I'd be that sure but that's the way the KC works I think.  But if they are asking fro your vet, they might ask for a second swab from them if anything turns up.

For example, you can register a litter on-line or on paper and either way the KC trusts you to show the correct parents for the pups, with the proviso that a signature is required from the stud dog owner.

[Beewyched]

This, I must admit, I am surprised at 
I would have thought that seeing as the vets have to have the dog's microchip number ( & scan to check it too) for things such as hip scoring & (legal) tail docking, then why not for other tests 

[kaz]

I think I'll try to ring the Kennel Club and find out what their actual ruling is on this, as don't want to have the test done and then find that they need my vet to verify what swabs are for what dog.
They have both been microchipped , so that might be what is verified. I know when my Goldie has hip & elbow xrays done they checked the microchip.

[Beewyched]

Hope you get some helpful advice on the Kaz    - let us know how it goes 

[Moleskins]

This, I must admit, I am surprised at 
I would have thought that seeing as the vets have to have the dog's microchip number ( & scan to check it too) for things such as hip scoring & (legal) tail docking, then why not for other tests 

Not sure about the tail docking, pups at the time of docking are too young to be chipped and my bitch wasn't scanned for her chip the other day.

[robate55]

The Kennel Club appear confused. On registration I was advised by the registration dept. to put on one thing. When I said this was a lie, they informed me as it is not a legal document it did not matter!!!!
I am querying this in a letter because if this their opinion I would think they are actually actively encouraging lying.
 
Rose
 

[kaz]

Been onto the Kennel Club this morning. As this test is done by mouth swabs which are sent to you by the Animal Health Trust, it is o.k. for you to do.

Obviously I am only testing 2 dogs which I have registered with the Kennel Club and they are taking that on trust.

The more complex tests for elbow, hips and blood involved tests would be through your vets.

[Beewyched]

This, I must admit, I am surprised at 
I would have thought that seeing as the vets have to have the dog's microchip number ( & scan to check it too) for things such as hip scoring & (legal) tail docking, then why not for other tests 

Not sure about the tail docking, pups at the time of docking are too young to be chipped and my bitch wasn't scanned for her chip the other day.

All I can say is that my puppy was legally docked & it has his micro-chip number on his certificate issued by the vet that carried it out, also on his Kennel Club notification of legal docking.
Our vets run the scanner over the dogs on an annual basis, just to check they haven't moved/are still working.

[doganjo]

Defra first of all said they had to be scanned at the time of docking - 2 days, but there was such an uproar that now they allow them to be chipped up to 8 weeks I believe.  I think even that is too young, but I don't have to worry about it as mine are either born natural short tailed or tailless or with long tails.

[Beewyched]

Defra first of all said they had to be scanned at the time of docking - 2 days, but there was such an uproar that now they allow them to be chipped up to 8 weeks I believe.  I think even that is too young, but I don't have to worry about it as mine are either born natural short tailed or tailless or with long tails.

Aha - that would explain it Annie.  He was born in August 2011, so I'm guessing it's changed again.  I knew you would have the updated legislation 

[doganjo]

I think some vets do still chip at that age though.  All I am saying is that they can delay it till later, perhaps it's another piece of paper that some vets don't want to bother with.

[kaz]

Just thought I'd update on this. Both dogs tested came back with results clear for both GR_PRA1 & GR_PRA2, so well worth the money to test them.