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sabrina

  • Joined Nov 2008
worming
« on: August 10, 2012, 02:18:31 pm »
I have bought layers pellets with the added wormer. I have 8wk old chicks that free range with their mum. will I have to shut them away from the feed or is it ok if they do happen to eat some.

in the hills

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: worming
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2012, 04:02:14 pm »
I don't know for definite but we have just had a similar thing. Wormed the older hens ... who free range. The chicks and their mum also free range and so had access to the medicated pellets. No obvious problems ... assuming its okay  ??? . Do know a couple of people who have wormed very young chicks with Flubenvet and again no problems.

Victorian Farmer

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Re: worming
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2012, 04:14:18 pm »
get sheep wormer and give them 1 mil lot more afective.

Rosemary

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Re: worming
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2012, 04:20:11 pm »
get sheep wormer and give them 1 mil lot more afective.

Withdrawal period?

Big Light

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Re: worming
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2012, 04:34:40 pm »
Which Brand VF ?
thanks BL

Welshcob

  • Joined Jul 2012
Re: worming
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2012, 04:50:04 pm »
get sheep wormer and give them 1 mil lot more afective.

Withdrawal period?

Good point Rosemary, however it won't be the same in a different species therefore even what is written in the leaflet for sheep won't count for chickens.

In fact, I wouldn't give anything to the chickens that is supposed to be administered to another species. And only if it was an emergency, I'd try my best to work out the correct dose, not just a random "1ml of something". The administration route can also vary the effect. Something that is supposed to be taken orally by a sheep, which is a ruminant, will not have the same effect on monogastric like hens. Sheep/cattle strength medicines can harm smaller animals and birds have a much faster and somewhat different metabolism from mammals.

Veterinary drugs destined to a specific species have been studied and tested, the differences are there for their benefit, and not because somebody thought fun to make many types.

in the hills

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: worming
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2012, 05:08:39 pm »
Think you would need to be careful, especially if you eat their eggs. And if you sell them ......  :o   ???

princesspiggy

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Re: worming
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2012, 08:16:49 pm »
i tried  to buy that wormer/pellets but was asked by harbros for a presription from the vet, so never bothered. £25 for a pot of worm powder instead...panacur wud be cheaper.

chrismahon

  • Joined Dec 2011
  • Gascony, France
Re: worming
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2012, 09:06:30 pm »
we use Marriages premix (SPC mail order) and it saves a lot of hassle Sabrina and actually costs less than mixing it yourself. Keep the chicks well away from it. Too early to worm them and far too early for the levels of Calcium in the layers.

Big Light

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Re: worming
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2012, 08:44:32 am »
Chris - Sorry whats SPC mail order ?
thanks
BL

Fleecewife

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Re: worming
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2012, 10:52:52 am »
It's the SPC Poultry Centre which sells Marriages pellets with added Flubenvet, at a good price.  We are about to order it for the first time.
 
I agree totally with welshcob that products designed for sheep should not be used for poultry - unless your vet says yes.  My bad neighbour killed his dog that way - gave it Panacur along with the flock, forgetting he had included a flukicide, which turned out to be also a canicide  >:(   One dead dog  :furious:
 
 
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  • Joined Mar 2012
Re: worming
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2012, 03:50:52 pm »
agreed-don't use medications used in other species, at worst they might kill and at best they just won't have any effect on the worms that live in the species you are trying to treat-either because the drugs aren't the right ones or at the correct dose. One very famous animal sanctuary used cattle wormer on a different species and it just led to lots of worm resistance on the property and in the target species. if you're going to worm, why waste your money?

princesspiggy

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Re: worming
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2012, 06:05:24 pm »
My bad neighbour killed his dog that way - gave it Panacur along with the flock, forgetting he had included a flukicide, which turned out to be also a canicide  >:(   One dead dog  :furious:


i cant rem which one but there is a hors wormer which is fatal to dogs aswell.

Victorian Farmer

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Re: worming
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2012, 06:48:25 pm »
i spoke to the vet that said the white worm er is more affective than eney other so sheep and chickins get it £10 to do the lot.

graham-j

  • Joined Jul 2012
  • Canterbury Kent
Re: worming
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2012, 08:25:59 pm »
Hi,unless it is an emergency and your hens are infested with worms,why not just wait a few more weeks until your chicks are 15 or 16 weeks old.Then you can worm everything with your flubenvet mixed feed.
Personally if it were me I would do them all when the growers are 12 weeks old,a week of feeding the grower layers pellets won't hurt them,I only found out a few years ago that they made growers pellets up till then I feed every thing layers.

Graham
Graham.

 

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