Author Topic: a lender or a borrower  (Read 7187 times)

robert waddell

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a lender or a borrower
« on: August 10, 2012, 09:07:37 am »
somebody told me  that a friend of theres borrowed there trailer to move something and brought it back  parked it up  and left only for the owner to come and check it latter to discover a broken tail light
 
now when i started in pigs i did not have a trailer to start with and did borrow a friends big ifor williams    it was always clean when i picked it up and was returned cleaned and disinfected and gave him a bottle a whiskey as that was his favourite tipple        once i borrowed his slurry tanker and before giving it back steam cleaned it   (his reaction then was total surprise and asked if there was nothing else that i was wanting a loan of if it was going to be cleaned)
 
others have borrowed my equipment and the majority return it as it was given but there is the odd occasion that it comes back buggered or at least requires some TLC   this i don't mind if they tell you and offer to put it right  but these sneaky barstewards that think they have one up on you  or think your head buttons up the back   they can just truck off      and ruin it for the genuine people that will take care of your equipment better than you would yourself :farmer:

Bionic

  • Joined Dec 2010
  • Talley, Carmarthenshire
Re: a lender or a borrower
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2012, 09:17:33 am »
Robert, I agree with you totally.
I actually hate borrowing anything and if I do then it is returned in as good, or better condition than when I took it.
A so called friend borrowed a new ladder from me. They had it ages and I had to ask for its return as I needed to use it. It turned out they had then lent it out to someone else. Well, you can imagine what sort of state it was in. OK, it was only a ladder but I spent my hard earned cash on it for someone else to cover it in paint.  :rant:
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Fowgill Farm

  • Joined Feb 2009
Re: a lender or a borrower
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2012, 09:29:38 am »
Robert, I agree with you totally.
I actually hate borrowing anything and if I do then it is returned in as good, or better condition than when I took it.
Ditto same for us, OH is a builder which people think gives them carte blanche to come and borrow stuff then not return it for ages, his biggest bug bear had been his stihl saw which always came back with a kackered diamond blade and no petrol and not so much as a botle of wine in thanks, he no longer lets anyone borrow it saying its against H&S(its not but most are non the wiser!) Like robert before we had a trailer we used to borrow our neighbours, its was always knee deep in cow poo and we always had to pressure wash it before we used it and then again after we used it and OH was always doing little running repairs on, tightening tailgate, oiling hinges, renewing lightbulbs, air in the tyres! etc, when the farmers got a new trailer we actually bought this one and its still going strong with all the TLC its now getting.
Mandy :pig:

Brucklay

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Re: a lender or a borrower
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2012, 11:09:14 am »
Like above I really don't like borrowing but as above I too have had to borrow a friends livestock trailer to take lambs off, I always wash and scrub so there's not a spec of poo to be seen before returning and I always pay a bit so they can put it towards feed or whatever's needed. I feel pleased they trust me and I don't want to take advantage of their good will, keeping  :fc: they've always been happy - one time the electrics disconnected, I mustn't have connected correctly in the first place and of course it was smashed when I got home - replaced straight away and I admitted the fact.


OH's a joiner and has lost count of the tools hes lent and got back in a mess - or not even got back as they seem to have been lost  :( :(
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feldar

  • Joined Apr 2011
  • lymington hampshire
Re: a lender or a borrower
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2012, 01:51:47 pm »
We often lend our small trailer out to farming friends who don't want to haul a big one to market or only take one ram etc and so far, have never had any problems :fc: it always comes back clean and in good condition.
a few years ago we had to call on one such friend to lend us some hay in an emergency because we had bad snow and he did because we had always lent him the trailer no questions asked.
So it is nice to have a borrow and payback among friends rather than having to buy or hire. It's just a case of picking the right friends :innocent:

plumseverywhere

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Re: a lender or a borrower
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2012, 02:38:54 pm »
My friend borrowed my husbands lawnmower a week or so ago. It came back within an hour,  cleaner, one of the broken bits was repaired and it was topped right up with petrol (more than she'd used!). That's how I'd be if I borrowed anything but not everyone is, sadly.
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Castle Farm

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Re: a lender or a borrower
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2012, 04:11:00 pm »
One of my neighbours always borrows my newish lawn mower to cut her grass. I always keep it topped up with fuel in season and whenever she returns it the tank is nearly empty.

I can hear her grounding out the mower from where I live and the sound of the engine struggling when the grass box is to full. I mutter empty it! empty it!, but more often than not she runs it till the mower stalls.
She borrowed it 3 weeks ago and I havent seen it since.

I'm getting really pi**edoff with this, but how can you tell a blagger to buy thier own bit of kit.? :rant:
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Bionic

  • Joined Dec 2010
  • Talley, Carmarthenshire
Re: a lender or a borrower
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2012, 05:00:51 pm »
CF,
Its very difficult to deal with something like this.  Can you tell her it is out of action?  I know it will mean that you can't cut your own grass either but it may be worth a try.
Sally
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RUSTYME

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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2012, 05:42:58 pm »
I have lost count of the books i have lent to people , and the book has come back with pages bent and scribbled on or torn , and they swear blind that it was that way when they took it , a brand new book worth £30 or so . I don't lend books anymore .
The last tools i lent were my fencing stuff , fencing pliers , straining tool , 6' bar and a big ali maul . The pliers came back with a chunk missing , and over 2 years later the maul still hasn't appeared .  The handle broke the first day by all acounts ! It was like new .
Thats what happens when family use stuff .
In future i will tell them the same as i do everyone else , do what i do , go buy one !
Tools that have been lent , never to be seen again ;brand new wheel barrow ,
brand new welder ,
triple extending ladder ,
chainsaw ,
lawn mower ,
generator ,
rotovator , and more hand tools than i can remember , no feckin more !
The only thing they take now is umbridge , when i tell them NO , and if they ask again FECKOFF !       

bangbang

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Re: a lender or a borrower
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2012, 06:22:40 pm »
My Old man told me as a teenager, ' if you borrow something, always return it in better condition than you got it'
Due to disapointments from family and friends in the past my trust has wavered, and
sadly not everyone holds my old man's philosophy. So now I don't lend or borrow. :(

Lesley Silvester

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Telford
Re: a lender or a borrower
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2012, 08:39:23 pm »
We once lent a cement mixer to a friend and when it eventually came back, it was caked with solid cement.  He claimed it was like that when he got it from us.  It wasn't.  We had bought it for the purpose of building and extension and had planned on selling it on but ended up having to give it away as we were on the point of moving to another area and didn't have the hours it would take to chips away at his cement.

omnipeasant

  • Joined May 2012
  • Llangurig , Mid Wales
Re: a lender or a borrower
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2012, 11:33:46 pm »
Yep, my OH always services mowers or similar and sends things back in better condition than he borrowed them.

lill

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Re: a lender or a borrower
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2012, 06:44:28 pm »
Would not have been so bad if the items were on their last legs but they were new, instead of reading the instructions that was in the box they just barged in and thought they knew how to use them, they give them back and say nothing about the damage they caused so now no one will  ever get the borrow of anything we have again ever. My moto now is " IF REFUSAL WILL CAUSE OFFENCE DON'T ASK"   Please all bear this moto in mind.

SallyintNorth

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Re: a lender or a borrower
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2012, 01:58:57 am »
Many years ago I decided that I would not lend books or records; if someone asked to borrow one such and I was prepared to lose it, then I would give it to them.  The end result was the same, and I had the pleasure of giving a gift.  :D
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rispainfarm

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Re: a lender or a borrower
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2012, 09:36:00 pm »
Don't you find though, if you do borrow something, sods law something breaks on it or you have a puncture or something goes wrong no matter how careful you are. I try not to borrow anything for that reason,although occasionally needs must.
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