Author Topic: Is there a market for Large Blacks?  (Read 12243 times)

Tudful Tamworths

  • Joined Aug 2009
    • Liz's website
Re: Is there a market for Large Blacks?
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2012, 12:25:08 am »
Please don't keep saying "girls" and "boys". It's "gilts" and "boars".
www.lizshankland.com www.biggingerpigs.com
Author of the Haynes Pig Manual, Haynes Smallholding Manual, and the Haynes Sheep Manual. Three times winner of the Tamworth Champion of Champions. Teaching smallholding courses at Kate Humble's farm: www.humblebynature.com

Button End Beasts

  • Joined Jan 2012
  • Harston, Cambridgeshire
Re: Is there a market for Large Blacks?
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2012, 08:19:27 am »
Fairhaven, you mention that a friend is going to show you how to butcher. This may make it harder for you to sell the meat and be within the law. The easiest way to sell your pork to friends and family, is to get a registered butcher to cut up and package up the meat which is then sold direct to friends and family. To do this YOU also need to be registered with the local council as a food business. This what ive had to do here in Cambridge. To cut and package meat yourself, you needed to be registered as a butcher I believe, a whole raft of different regulations coming In to play. Sounds too complicated and I haven't ventured into that!


Can you try and target people at the University to buy premium paork? Academics usually have a bit more money to afford good quality meat, well that's my theory here! :excited:

fairhaven

  • Joined Jul 2012
  • Norfolk
    • The Hazy Rainbow
Re: Is there a market for Large Blacks?
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2012, 08:39:58 am »
Thats great,  Then to register as a butcher & I'd need to qualify as a butcher.... yes, too much hassle there then  ::)
 Will check out the council / food business thing tomorrow though. 
Sheep: North Ronaldsay & 4 Horned Hebridean - We also breed & exhibit 3 breeds of rabbit - Chinchilla, Deilenaar (rare breed) & Colour Pointed English Angora.

Button End Beasts

  • Joined Jan 2012
  • Harston, Cambridgeshire
Re: Is there a market for Large Blacks?
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2012, 08:45:01 am »
Hii again, just to say,registering with the council, south cambs, was very easy and didn't cost me anything. Took me a while to find the form, just ring the council and ask them where to go on their website.

Fowgill Farm

  • Joined Feb 2009
Re: Is there a market for Large Blacks?
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2012, 10:29:22 am »
 ;D
Please don't keep saying "girls" and "boys". It's "gilts" and "boars".

I know Liz we should but for first time pig keepers they often don't know what the words mean! so its easier sometimes to get messages/info thro to new entrants into the world of pigs and then educate from there!
Mandy  :pig:

fairhaven

  • Joined Jul 2012
  • Norfolk
    • The Hazy Rainbow
Re: Is there a market for Large Blacks?
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2012, 05:17:29 pm »
Thank you for all advice & help here...  :thumbsup:

 Just like to say that for a newbie to pigs, I do happen to know what boar's, gilts & sows are - needing a bit of advice on the husbandry side of things doesn't mean that someone is totally ignorant  ::)
Sheep: North Ronaldsay & 4 Horned Hebridean - We also breed & exhibit 3 breeds of rabbit - Chinchilla, Deilenaar (rare breed) & Colour Pointed English Angora.

Tudful Tamworths

  • Joined Aug 2009
    • Liz's website
Re: Is there a market for Large Blacks?
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2012, 06:16:57 pm »
Just like to say that for a newbie to pigs, I do happen to know what boar's, gilts & sows are - needing a bit of advice on the husbandry side of things doesn't mean that someone is totally ignorant ::)
 
Well I didn't say that, nor suggest it. It's just the "boys/girls" thing always grates on me. Just a personal bugbear. A bit like "chooks"! Please don't take offence - none intended!  :)
www.lizshankland.com www.biggingerpigs.com
Author of the Haynes Pig Manual, Haynes Smallholding Manual, and the Haynes Sheep Manual. Three times winner of the Tamworth Champion of Champions. Teaching smallholding courses at Kate Humble's farm: www.humblebynature.com

YorkshireLass

  • Joined Mar 2010
  • Just when I thought I'd settled down...!
Re: Is there a market for Large Blacks?
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2012, 07:47:52 pm »
Thank you for all advice & help here...  :thumbsup:

 Just like to say that for a newbie to pigs, I do happen to know what boar's, gilts & sows are - needing a bit of advice on the husbandry side of things doesn't mean that someone is totally ignorant  ::)


True, but as this will be on the internet for all eternity it helps browsers like me work out what's what ;)

princesspiggy

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Re: Is there a market for Large Blacks?
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2012, 09:33:43 pm »
The easiest way to sell your pork to friends and family, is to get a registered butcher to cut up and package up the meat which is then sold :excited:


i thought this, but found out last yr is has to be a cutting plant not a butcher if u r selling the meat on.

Tamsaddle

  • Joined May 2011
  • Hampshire, near Portsmouth
Re: Is there a market for Large Blacks?
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2012, 08:32:46 am »
Here is me being dense.  What is a "cutting plant".   Is it a completely different trade to being a butcher, or could some be both?   Tamsaddle

Fowgill Farm

  • Joined Feb 2009
Re: Is there a market for Large Blacks?
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2012, 10:13:06 am »
Just like to say that for a newbie to pigs, I do happen to know what boar's, gilts & sows are - needing a bit of advice on the husbandry side of things doesn't mean that someone is totally ignorant ::)
 
Well I didn't say that, nor suggest it. It's just the "boys/girls" thing always grates on me. Just a personal bugbear. A bit like "chooks"! Please don't take offence - none intended!  :)

incidentally my FIL calls them dog pigs and bitch pigs!  ;D

princesspiggy

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Re: Is there a market for Large Blacks?
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2012, 01:51:10 pm »
Here is me being dense.  What is a "cutting plant".   Is it a completely different trade to being a butcher, or could some be both?   Tamsaddle


i may not explain this fully- a cutting plant - ours is alongside the abattoir, there is an inspector(which one i cant remember) present to ensure meat is at appropriate standard to sell to public. by law u should use a cutting plant if u r selling ur meat on to paying customers.
a butcher doesnt have an inspector present and can sell meat to public or cut your meat for you, but u shouldnt use a butcher to cut your meat if u are selling it on. to b above board anyway.
im sure someone will explain it better.

Button End Beasts

  • Joined Jan 2012
  • Harston, Cambridgeshire
Re: Is there a market for Large Blacks?
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2012, 03:26:39 pm »
Princess piggy, by inspector do you mean vet? We go to an abattoir/ butcher and they always have a vet there. I thought that was to ensure the animal was healthy and the meat would be fit for sale. Also our butcher knows we sell the meat on to friends and family, surely he  would tell us if he weren't registered as a cutting plant? Where did you find out this info. about cutting plants v butchers?

princesspiggy

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Re: Is there a market for Large Blacks?
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2012, 04:03:15 pm »
it was discussed on here in nov last yr in thread re "confused and cross".


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One point that has not arisen in this discussion and which may have influenced PP's first butcher is that meat that is being resold (rather than just for your personal use) has, by law, to be butchered in a licensed cutting plant under veterinary and MHS supervision. Now this law is largely ignored but butchers are aware that any Trading Standards Officer has the power to prosecute should he choose to do so.







 :D    our butchers would cut it for u for personal use but if u were advertising meat to sell he wouldnt. instead we have to use the cutting plant at our abattoir, which we will do at end of month for first time. we r also registering with council to sell frozen meat aswell.


 

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